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Re: Soli

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Post by Marsymars »

Aunche wrote: post #198
xrisk wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OTOH, a physical keyboard is vastly preferable over a touch screen one.

This isn't true for smartphones anymore. Touchscreen keyboards provide much more data that can be used for autocorrect. Also, you can't swipe type on a keyboard.

> Touchscreen keyboards provide much more data that can be used for autocorrect.

My spelling mistakes are either from muscle memory hitting an incorrect sequence of characters, transposing letters, or from me not knowing how to spell a word. How is a touchscreen going to improve any of those problems?

Re: Soli

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Post by side_up_down »

2_listerine_pls wrote: post #263
myth_buster wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it's a documented fact that most of breakthrough technology feels like dabbling in triviality. I read somewhere (will look for source when I get time), that when Thomas Edison invented phonograph, he believed there wouldn't be no other use for it than to listen to sermons at home. I believe this __could__ over time revolutionize HCI and perhaps gaming.

I believe it's a documented fact that breakthrough technologies involve breakthroughs.

Very pithy comment. Breakthroughs are only breakthroughs in hindsight. False positives and negatives abound in breakthrough declarations.

Re: Soli

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Post by mappu »

0xffff2 wrote: post #115
landa wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Kinect caused a huge wave of innovation. It was a convenient and low-cost source of RGBD data, and many robotics labs got a few when it was released.

Could you expand on the result of said innovation? Where would I see Kinect driven innovation in everyday life?

I know of MSc and PhD work to use the Kinect as a low-cost alignment system for radiotherapy patients.

Re: Soli

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Post by sharcerer »

glenvdb wrote: post #286

In an earlier iteration of the web page they had really cool examples of controlling sliders, radial dials, panning surfaces, highly specific pinch gestures etc. All of those have been removed and now it's just waving. It's cool tech and requires solving lots of hard problems, but it's a shame it falls so short of the initial vision.

Still there. some of them.

Re: Soli

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Post by shalmanese »

crummy wrote: post #273
modernerd wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a little on accidental input detection in this short video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS8SW-ouM5w

Off topic but does it seem like this link deliberately doesn't load any of the Youtube UI details, just leaving in grey hints? I thought the rest hadn't loaded but it's kind of a nice experience. It looks like this on my end: https://imgur.com/F65dvgX

It's a bug. Youtube can't load those components so it displays placeholder UI.

Re: Soli

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Post by tastroder »

llamataboot wrote: post #60

I've tinkered around with gesture recognition with the Magic Leap quite a bit for art projects. I hope this gets released as a standalone product with an SDK!

According to Google cache they had an SDK at one point [1] - guess that went down the drain after monetization. The chip itself seems to be an infineon product [0] you could buy but the interesting part will likely be the software stack. From a research perspective this is certainly cool tech. But it seems kind of odd to have an ad / landing page for an aspect of their tech you can only get as a gimmicky part of a feature phone. All the "it's not a camera" wording makes me feel like this is just a marketing campaign to say "see, we're not creepy".

[0] https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/promopages/60GHz/

[1] https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8OjB0R...

Re: Soli

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Post by [deleted] »

opencl wrote: post #142
nexuist wrote: post #134

>Motion Sense will be available in select countries. Just...why? What is the point of region locking this? It's only hardware, isn't it?

Google does love pointless region locking but this is probably due to RF certification requirements from each country's equivalent to the FCC.

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Re: Soli

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Post by mlyle »

GistNoesis wrote: post #264
mlyle wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When there is no obstacle 6Ghz or 60Ghz doesn't matter. Power amplifier efficiency for 6GHz and 60GHz is not the same-- not even close. > For 3$ https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32786483344.html a 6Ghz radar that goes 12meters using 30mA, so my range claims are not that silly. This is a deflection and ridiculous. We're talking about spotting e.g. gestures. It falls apart with distance because of both angular resoluti…

>If it was easy to spot and precisely track small objects at 10m, That's not the claim I'm making. I agree that this chip won't do the gesture recognition at 10m, but I'm quite convinced that it can pick up human movement signal if they try to do so. >I've been involved in the design of mmwave radars I don't have this level of expertise. But I'll be really surprised if we couldn't reach the same levels of amplificati…

Your second quote seems out of context and doesn't occur in the paper you cite.

Your first quote says "sensing range below 10m".

Yes, it is possible to make long range 60GHz systems-- largely through antenna gain and lenses. Yes, we could build an entirely different radar to track peoples' gross movement--- and could have 20 years ago, too-- but that has largely nothing to do with the original system or your original claim.

If I wanted to image people at low resolution through a wall, 60GHz is about the last thing I'd pick. Drywall alone has an attenuation of about 3 dB/cm, and remember we have to cross the wall twice. You run out of loss budget really quick. Suggesting one can go 10x as far (10000x power alone) and through walls is... creative.

If you want to track people through a wall, use UHF. It works pretty well and is pretty easy.

Re: Soli

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Post by choicenotchance »

This is just a solution looking for problems.

Unless it can help making my dream come true - of being able to open up my workspace (basically all apps in my laptop/desktop - IDE/browser/VLC/File Explorer.. basically my entire laptop OS UI) in thin air anywhere (as AR with glasses/goggles or projected hologram screens a la Iron Man) and allow me to work with a small trackpad and keyboard, it's just another toy innovation.

Why can't the Iron Man type interface be a reality by now? Meta AR seemed to have a grip on it, not sure if they've made an affordable commercial version that can support OSs out of the box - Ubuntu/Windows etc so that users can continue work in their workspaces right after putting the glasses on.

Basically I want to be able to code or watch youtube anywhere, in any comfortable position - lying down or on toilet seat or in a car.

Re: Soli

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Post by jtmb »

cannam wrote: post #185
snewman wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As predicted in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "...an electric pencil flew across the cabin and through the radio's on/off-sensitive airspace."

It certainly seems on-point. "A loud clatter of gunk music flooded through the Heart of Gold cabin as Zaphod searched the sub-etha radio wavebands for news of himself. The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive - you merely had to brush the panels…

It almost seems like cheating to draw on Douglas Adams, of course he'd be the one to draw out futuristic truths in his droll way.
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