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Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by pseudalopex »

barry-cotter wrote: post #200
Pfhreak wrote: post #161

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Health and Care Utilization of Transgender and Gender Nonconforming Youth: A Population-Based Study Pediatrics Journal https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/14... Participants included 2168 (2.7%) students who identified as TGNC and 78 761 (97.3%) students who identified as cisgender. There's a reason I give such a wide range. Maybe I should widen it to 0.5-3%, but I believe that in the past 5 yea…

Trans and Gender Non-Confirming != Trans Using that article as a source for trans population is like saying 40% of the US population are people of colour, therefore 40% of the US population is black.

The TGNC group identified as transgender, genderqueer, genderfluid, or unsure. Cis people with unusual gender expression didn't count.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by mcv »

loxs wrote: post #277
sqldba wrote: post #28

Shouldn’t the CTO fire the person who was directly responsible for firing Monica? Why isn’t that part of it?

Because the person responsible for firing Monica is "just doing their job", which is aligned with the political agenda.

Deciding to fire someone in such a questionable and unusual manner is never "just doing their job". Someone made a really poor call here, and is trying to excuse it with accusations and events that never seem to have happened.

That combination, and the fact that it resulted in a major scandal for SE, makes it absolutely justifiable to fire the person responsible.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by frittig »

scarface74 wrote: post #285
frittig wrote: post #16

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one thing that I love about SE is that everyone is very professional. almost all answers are either sourced or can easily be seen to be correct. what I am worried is that if a lot of the normal mods quit and our replaced with new mods, who may be more political, SE will turn into Reddit where leftist politics prevail in all of the major subreddits and most responses to factual questions consist of options or unsource…

How much politics do you get in technical Q and A forums?

Currently not much. But maybe in the future if someone mentions a man page they will be banned for not calling it a people page

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/07/justin-trudeau...

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by [deleted] »

loxs wrote: post #213

Stack Exchange is now a political battleground and long are gone the days when it was a tool for sharing technological knowledge. They are now competing who is more oppressed instead of who knows more. That's what you get when you let ideology become more important than the core of the product. This is only the beginning of the downfall.

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Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by drusepth »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #283
solidasparagus wrote: post #270

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> If you took away the community entirely, would it be any less useful? My suspicion is that the answer is yes. You'd have to have actual data to be sure, but based on my experience with internet communities, there are probably a small number of people who bring in the vast majority of the value (i.e. answer the most questions, clean up/flag/categorize questions and answers). Those people spend a lot of time on the s…

I concur. You can see the same thing on HN, if you look closely. For a new or infrequent user, all comment threads are randos talking to other randos. For a frequent commenter who's been here for a while now, it's a community with a lot of transient commenters, but also a lot of regulars, who recognize each other's handles and sometimes carry discussions across time and multiple comment threads - and it's a big part…

I'd actually argue that that that context-heavy communication (carrying discussions across time and multiple comment threads) often makes the conversation worse from the point of view of those transient commenters (which, I'd guess, is a majority of HN? You probably know better than me on that, though). I'd classify myself as a transient commenter here since I don't recognize names even though I've been on HN since 2011. I admit it probably makes the site more enjoyable for those regulars, though, and can sometimes also generate "good" conversation that wouldn't otherwise exist that is beneficial to transient commenters also.

I actually spent a long time lobbying Quora to make content anonymous by default for exactly this reason. It's really frustrating when I come into a comment thread and don't understand some context outside of what's actually being said. This isn't nearly as much of a problem on HN than it is on Quora (or even SE), but if I ask an intentionally-generic question I don't want people looking at who asked it and needlessly scoping their answers to the kind of answers they think I want. I also understand there are some psychological benefits to the opposite though (people wanting to know more about who asked a question to put a face to who they think they're helping), but IMO what little benefit it offers the OP dwarfs potentially unfortunate specificity for anyone else with that question in the future that might put them in a weird mix of "duplicate question" and "oh, but this one little thing is different for me".

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by blanche_ »

ben174 wrote: post #15

It's incredible that pronouns can bring down an entire community. Pick you battles please, we're losing good things because of this silly conflict.

Ben would you mind then being called she/her then if that is so silly? I'm a hetero woman and I've been called a male few times when gaming and this is not silly, people are rejecting your identity and I can't even imagine how bad this is for trans/NB people.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by prepend »

BurnGpuBurn wrote: post #267
mafuy wrote: post #247

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What they did to her was wrong from my point of view, but it certainly was not 'based on pure hate'. Don't speak this exaggeration and nonsense. The person who fired her simply had no intention to spend time dealing with Monica's questions and chose the easy route of getting rid of what she perceived as a troublemaker.

Well, it is a pretty hateful way of doing things. I mean, that's how I treat people I hate; shun them, ignore them, not reply to them. So there's an argument there. I agree though. It seems to me to have more to do with aggrandizing power and influence than with hate. What better way to get rid of competitors than to bait them into behaving "bigoted"? Look at the Monica case. She never refused to use someones chosen…

> I mean, that's how I treat people I hate; shun them, ignore them, not reply to them.

That’s also how I treat people I completely don’t care about or am aware of. My default behavior is to ignore, that doesn’t mean I hate everyone I ignore. If I assume this about people who ignore me, I’ll probably be wrong.

Should I assume Comcast is shunning me when they don’t respond? Or that they hate me? Or maybe they are just a stupid org that doesn’t care at all about me.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by cbm-vic-20 »

ben174 wrote: post #15

It's incredible that pronouns can bring down an entire community. Pick you battles please, we're losing good things because of this silly conflict.

Could all of this been avoided if SE had a field in user profiles that is basically "Please use the following pronoun when referring to me: _______"? The user could fill this in with She, He, They, Qwotzl, whatever.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by StevePerkins »

BurnGpuBurn wrote: post #267
mafuy wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they did to her was wrong from my point of view, but it certainly was not 'based on pure hate'. Don't speak this exaggeration and nonsense. The person who fired her simply had no intention to spend time dealing with Monica's questions and chose the easy route of getting rid of what she perceived as a troublemaker.

Well, it is a pretty hateful way of doing things. I mean, that's how I treat people I hate; shun them, ignore them, not reply to them. So there's an argument there. I agree though. It seems to me to have more to do with aggrandizing power and influence than with hate. What better way to get rid of competitors than to bait them into behaving "bigoted"? Look at the Monica case. She never refused to use someones chosen…

> "Well, it is a pretty hateful way of doing things. I mean, that's how I treat people I hate; shun them, ignore them, not reply to them."

That is a striking perspective, but perhaps just reflects a generational difference?

In a social media driven culture, where people grow up feeling that "attention == validation"... I suppose they could also feel that "indifference == hate" as a corollary.

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