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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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People at all ranges of life experience have authentic concerns. Listening can be hard, because, yes, we might hear stories of things that seem, well, entitled. That’s ok. Perhaps people that take too much for granted can reassess by putting their stories out and getting feedback?

Yes, that would be constructive. My fear is that often, these threads devolve into devs enabling each other's entitlement rather than illuminating it.

Well put, and yes that is definitely a risk. As a software developer myself though, I find these stories to be a good learning opportunity.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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working on non-version-controlled code, having been expressly forbidden from using ANY VC by the CEO Did the CEO give a reason? I'm a bit curious based on it being billing and HIPPA. Also, are you rolling your own EDI import/export?

HIPAA

I worked at a place that is extremely concerned with HIPPA to the point of having many specialist lawyers. We were required to use version control.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I sure hope this format doesn't take off. Having worked as a dishwasher, line cook, pool manager, business analyst, software engineer, and startup founder, I have to say software engineer was, by far, the most coddled job. How about this: I'm a line cook, and I can't afford to be fired. I make minimum wage, and burn or cut myself badly at least once per week. I'm not allowed to take the day off and have to work throu…

I'm a third world sweathop worker. I was forced to make clothes here ever since I could walk. There are hundreds of people packed in to this tiny windowless room, and every time there is a fire I die. My coworkers can't even afford alcohol. Every time I hear decadent American line cooks complain about their working conditions, all I can think is, they have it so easy.

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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I sure hope this format doesn't take off. Having worked as a dishwasher, line cook, pool manager, business analyst, software engineer, and startup founder, I have to say software engineer was, by far, the most coddled job. How about this: I'm a line cook, and I can't afford to be fired. I make minimum wage, and burn or cut myself badly at least once per week. I'm not allowed to take the day off and have to work throu…

Another problem - it is common for HN users (myself included) to have their account expressly linked to their own name. Obviously it would be disastrous if one's current employer found out about a rant like those in this thread.

Even if the user can't trivially be linked to their name, these stories can get so specific that if someone else from the company read it, they would know the writer.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Getting told by my director that the product manager thought it was rude when I answered a question by sending them a link to the answer in the relevant documentation. I guess this is why nothing else at this company is documented, because why write things down when you can waste multiple people's time repeating things.

Eh, all you would have had to do is something like “I think this is it! . Let me know if you need anythinng else” takes one more second to add a little fluff to humanize your message.

Don't forget the mandatory 2 hour delay to answer though, you still don't want them learning that it's quicker to ask than to look.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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Why didn’t you just recommend Azure Repos? It’s a great product and fits what you need. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-au/services/devops/repos/

* Azure means cloud and cloud means no * It didn't exist at the time, but there was an on-prem that MS offered a few years back. It was forced on another department with no version control experience. It lasted about two weeks.

There are self hosted Azure products also.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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post #282

I sure hope this format doesn't take off. Having worked as a dishwasher, line cook, pool manager, business analyst, software engineer, and startup founder, I have to say software engineer was, by far, the most coddled job. How about this: I'm a line cook, and I can't afford to be fired. I make minimum wage, and burn or cut myself badly at least once per week. I'm not allowed to take the day off and have to work throu…

I agree with you that line cook is a very hard job and I have nothing but respect for all the workers out there facing daily harsh conditions. Having said that, I also understand that mental problems caused by stress at work, the abuse and pressure some intellectual workers face is as real and dangerous, however is less visible. That's why I think that people reading this should not underestimate those dangers and lo…

Honestly, I've done a lot of jobs, some manual, some not, went to university, all of it. Anything that pays well is easy compared to a job that pays shit. The possibility that a missed shift means missing rent and potentially being homeless is far more stressful than any amount of mental 'abuse' or physical strain.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I didn't know this format was a thing and am so very excited to discover it. I hope you folks enjoy reading horror stories. I got a job as a Software Engineer in my current company 4.5 years ago; friend-of-a-friend sort of thing. The company had an apparently disastrous piece of software that was their main LOB. They had gone through pretty much every local consulting agency - at least once, on a few occasions they h…

I've worked for Fortune 500 and even Fortune 50 companies that acquired tech companies with no due diligence (usually in a panic) and I've had to clean up the mess. And the acquired folks usually leave in exactly a year and one day, after vesting. And, even in 2019, I've gotten calls to clean up messes from people that have hired a software developer (for a company whose business isn't software) who doesn't use sourc…

Fortune 500/50 companies should be able to absorb the cost, no? If you have a lot of money, you can afford to make mistakes as long as the expected value (of many acquisitions) is positive in the long run.

I’m not sure what the point of this comment was, so apologies if I’ve assumed incorrectly.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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If you're that young (18??), you can almost definitely afford to quit tomorrow and look for something better. Never sacrifice your own career for your employer's success (within some time horizon.) Being willing to quit when your boss is a clear bad actor is a core part of this.

If you're that young (18??), you can almost definitely afford to quit tomorrow and look for something better. It very probably is the opposite. A lot of people who end up working at 18 are doing it because they need the money and their support network is poor.

Can confirm. Been working as a SWE full time and trying to finish my degree since 19. I would not take this pile of stress if I had a pile of money.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I'm in a small city, where not much work is available. I need to pad my resume a little more to make the work I do more attractive, but the reality is that LAMP devs aren't in high demand near me. I apply to several jobs daily, but not much is around. I'd appreciate pointers on how to improve my prospects, but the last place I interviewed was a seedy adult entertainment company, and I wouldn't have taken an offer if…

> I need to pad my resume a little more to make the work I do more attractive A word of caution: One of my objectives as an interviewer is to drill into a candiate's resume to see if they actually did what they said they did. Its OK to talk up your accomplishments. But don't claim expertise in language X or technology Y unless you are prepared to answer some questions about it.

I interviewed a guy who's masters work was in the field I did my doctoral work in. I think I'm the only one in the company who knows anything about the particular topic, and considering that the role was far removed from that topic, it was a very unlikely coincidence. However, when discussing his research, he mostly missed the mark. It wasn't enough to sink his application as at the masters level I wouldn't expect him to know it nearly as well as I do, and he was ultimately hired. But, you never know who you're talking to.
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