iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by lern_too_spel » Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 7:06 PM UTC

dpark wrote: post #287

lern_too_spel wrote: post #282

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The article links to a few concrete examples. You'll have to use the Wayback Machine to access them.

No it doesn’t. It contains a link to an article about supposed “whitelisting” and one about supposedly giving WaPo and exclusive interview in retaliation to the NYT’s critical reporting. These are both the exact opposite of the blacklisting the article asserts exists. Then it links to an article about blacklisting but dismissed it as inaccurate. So there’s nothing linked about actual blacklisting examples by Apple un…

This article is about somebody who got a loaner, which means they are specifically whitelisted as my article's link says, which means that they are uncritical of Apple products. I don't know why you are hung up on blacklisting specifically as I have not mentioned that, only that prelaunch reviews of Apple products are not credible.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by dpark » Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 2:01 AM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #291

dpark wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it doesn’t. It contains a link to an article about supposed “whitelisting” and one about supposedly giving WaPo and exclusive interview in retaliation to the NYT’s critical reporting. These are both the exact opposite of the blacklisting the article asserts exists. Then it links to an article about blacklisting but dismissed it as inaccurate. So there’s nothing linked about actual blacklisting examples by Apple un…

This article is about somebody who got a loaner, which means they are specifically whitelisted as my article's link says, which means that they are uncritical of Apple products. I don't know why you are hung up on blacklisting specifically as I have not mentioned that, only that prelaunch reviews of Apple products are not credible.

Because this comment chain, including your original reply, was about blacklisting critical reviewers.

Also because the article you linked is about blacklisting.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by lern_too_spel » Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 3:46 PM UTC

dpark wrote: post #292

lern_too_spel wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article is about somebody who got a loaner, which means they are specifically whitelisted as my article's link says, which means that they are uncritical of Apple products. I don't know why you are hung up on blacklisting specifically as I have not mentioned that, only that prelaunch reviews of Apple products are not credible.

Because this comment chain, including your original reply, was about blacklisting critical reviewers. Also because the article you linked is about blacklisting.

It is also about whitelisting, which is the relevant section for this review ("an early review of an Apple product"). I never mentioned the term "blacklisting" until you brought it up.

Now that we have that out of the way, do you agree that early reviews of Apple products can only be done by reviewers that Apple considers favorable?

Re: iPhone 11 Pro Camera Review

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Post by dadarepublic » Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 3:15 PM UTC

toasterlovin wrote: post #279

partialrecall wrote: post #270

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From the perspective of a consumer, the difference is totally irrelevant. Why should the particulars of the exchange between the shill and the company matter to me? They don't.

The Verge regularly gets review units from Apple. Their editor, Joshua Topolsky, is not what you would describe as warm and enthusiastic about Apple and their products. When The Verge reviews an iPhone, they are not them engaging in advertising for Apple. If you think every tech outlet is a shill for the manufacturers, then you're just plain wrong about how the world works.

Spot on.