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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by beefhash »

swebs wrote: post #262
dessant wrote: post #39

I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…

Honest question: can we start a class action lawsuit for psychological damages due to this? I've experienced this firsthand when trying to use a service through a VPN. I spent legitimately 5 minutes trying to get through only to get "Please try again" every time even though I selected them meticulously. It is infuriating. I thought I was going crazy

In fact, Google has a patent on blocking users by means of CAPTCHAs that always return failure[1].

[1] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9407661

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Post by skybrian »

AYBABTME wrote: post #288
cameronbrown wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying I like the precedent of Google being inescapable, you're not "signing up" for anything. A web server is 100% in its rights to refuse to send you a page, on their terms.

Not sure why you're downvoted, it's a valid point. It feels icky to use a service that you pay for, and incidentally provide free labor to Google's AI which they resell in Google Cloud as a walled garden. The result of reCaptcha isn't public as far as I can tell, and humanity probably doesn't get a net benefit from Google's monopoly on AI anymore.

People talk about "free labor" and forget all the times they were able to do Google searches or use Google Maps for free. It seems rather ungrateful? This isn't a one-sided relationship, both sides benefit.

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Post by 0-_-0 »

behringer wrote: post #274
briandear wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sending my data to Google as a condition of using someone else’s site also isn’t secure. Training Google AI also isn’t something I signed up for.

That's why I always answer the captcha's wrong. the machine!

It's the only way to stop Skynet!

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by ineedasername »

llao wrote: post #28

While relatable, this is just a low effort post more suited for Twitter or Reddit. For a fair comparison OP would need to use clean browser profiles on fresh IPs. Like this it is just fan-service for Google Captcha victims (like me).

I disagree about the more appropriate for Twitter/Reddit than HN. But that's because my immediate interpretation, while not spelled out in the "article", was within the context of anti-competitive behavior by Google in making non-Chrome browser perform more poorly with google-created content.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

lowdose wrote: post #32
jackewiehose wrote: post #25

The slow animation is the worst. You really want to punch someone responsible in the face. And I never figure out how to solve the traffic light riddle.

Include the traffic light poles.

I don't include the poles, how about wires? What about pedestrian lights, are they "traffic lights"?

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Post by caconym_ »

The mainstream internet of today exists to serve the advertising industry (including but not limited to Google) and things that don't so serve will be marginalized like an organism rejecting a foreign body or disease. It's funny, because really the thing that makes users "more significant" than bots for the average website operator is that showing ads to real people has a monetary value attached to it. That is the only reason you prove your humanity to a machine: to validate your suitability as a target for ad spend.

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Post by Accacin »

nishmastime wrote: post #286
addicted wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't log in to Google Captcha sites anymore, unless I absolutely have to. Their discrimination against FF users has been fairly evident over the past year or so. It's amazing how my identification abilities improve exponentially by using Chrome instead of Firefox.

Reading these types of comments on HN, you'd think HN doesn't use Recaptcha for login/register. ;) Easy to hate on Recaptcha while reaping the rewards of participating in a community that deals with less automated spam because of it. :)

Really? I use a VPN most of the time and have not once had a captcha for logging into Hacker News.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

turrini wrote: post #107

For Google Recaptcha, I use GreaseMonkey with an user script: "Speed Up Google Captcha" "Makes Google Captcha works faster by removing slow visual transitions and unnecessary delays." https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/382039-speed-up-google-cap...

I'm really surprised that works, as I assumed the delay was random and it was looking for bots who were completing the image processing before the image has actually faded in. Huh.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by tootahe45 »

dessant wrote: post #39

I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…

Audio is not offered if you have non-default privacy settings, so this doesn't work when you're getting the most time-consuming captchas. So your extension is good for the captchas which take 15-20secs but not the 1minute+ ones, unfortunately.
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