Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us • Hacker News Board

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by viraptor » Fri, Dec 17, 2010, 3:51 PM UTC

scorpion032 wrote: post #274

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #153

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It's public data! You could scrape and index it now for free if you wanted...

They even throttle the friendfeed scraper which graciously pulls all its users data at once. You can't write a simple scraper that is not distributed in 100 of machines across the web to pull out their data.

I heard that there is this thing called "the cloud" where you can rent services based on the work time. That makes cheapo servers both realistic and quite simple ;)

Actually I just noticed you get 750h of free micro instance time from aws... I wonder if it would be worth doing. I imagine the link+tags are <100GB in total.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by StavrosK » Fri, Dec 17, 2010, 4:29 PM UTC

xtho wrote: post #276

StavrosK wrote: post #205

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http://historio.us/ is free (if you have fewer than 300 bookmarks). I don't think you'll find a totally free solution, as that's basically why delicious is closing :(

Most of these sites have some free service: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_bookmarking_webs...

Yep, but I said "totally free", as in no paid plans.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by theklub » Fri, Dec 17, 2010, 6:37 PM UTC

How did this website not make enough off of ad revenue? You know exactly what the users are looking for..

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by epo » Fri, Dec 17, 2010, 6:43 PM UTC

And here is the US government's answer to wikileaks. Get Yahoo! to acquire them, they'd be marginalised and then shut down in months.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by haploid » Fri, Dec 17, 2010, 11:30 PM UTC

Tichy wrote: post #175

What bookmarking service, if any, is everybody using these days?

These days I use this thing called a browser. It has bookmarking functionality built in.

The entire value proposition of logging into a website in order to bookmark other websites is lost on me.

I wish I could grok the value, but I can't.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by phlux » Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 1:02 AM UTC

varworld wrote: post #278

phlux wrote: post #133

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> Yahoo has no spine Yahoo has no vision, and now they are too busy chasing their own tails with respect to all the bad press they are getting surrounding their layoffs, lack of technology and utter failure in trending technology.

Technology has never been yahoo's problem, they might have more technology than facebook and twitter combined. They had morons running the company for the last 10 years like Terry Semel, Jerry Yang and now Carol Bartz. I understand turn arounds take time but such decisions are going to lead to nowhere.

Understood, I was referring to their effectual announcement of defeat by dropping any Yahoo search technology in place of BING.

Sure, they have and had technology - yet their utter failure in vision and management has resulted in them losing an understanding / ability to use their tech.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jawee » Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 1:35 AM UTC

xiongchiamiov wrote: post #268

idlewords wrote: post #185

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It's pale plain text at password creation time, and regular password dots when you login. Saves having to have a 'confirm password' box.

It surprised me, but then I went "huh, that makes sense" and continued on. Guess I'm the odd one out.

It still caused you to pause and slowed down your experience though.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by jawee » Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 1:42 AM UTC

jules wrote: post #180

jemfinch wrote: post #176

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Yahoo doesn't have search anymore. They subcontract to Bing. Besides, using delicious data would be far too open to SEO abuse.

They can do what duck duck go does and alter the search results or provide extra info. I agree about the abuse, but linking it to your own delicious account or some algorithm for weighing things that is already used for webpages can surely solve that.

Has Duck Duck Go considered directly using social bookmarking sites' informations in their hodge podge of ranking information?

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by Tichy » Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 1:50 AM UTC

haploid wrote: post #295

Tichy wrote: post #175

What bookmarking service, if any, is everybody using these days?

These days I use this thing called a browser. It has bookmarking functionality built in. The entire value proposition of logging into a website in order to bookmark other websites is lost on me. I wish I could grok the value, but I can't.

Not that I've been using it, but for one thing there is sync of bookmarks across browsers. Another value proposition of delicious was discovery of new sites through social tagging, I suppose.

Re: Yahoo is Shutting Down Del.icio.us

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Post by curiousepic » Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 4:24 PM UTC

MichaelMassing wrote: post #269

jacquesm wrote: post #223

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It's economies of scale reversed, normally you'd expect the price for everybody to go down over time, not up. Wonder what the way is that is justified to the end users.

In order to arrive at economies of scale, you have to first provide for the expenses of ramp-up. So far, admission is nominal for the value its payers perceive. Plotting growth against current cost should give a pretty good forecast of how much is too much. Of course, under the current special circumstances, we could even see a freeze.

The price should begin to reduce itself with a function of rate of signups.