Live data from Hacker News

When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

bbc.co.uk

291–297 of 297 posts

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#291
post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a large collection of technical books on my ipad. I can choose to read any one of them at any time in any place. I just need my ipad. This is both fun and educational. You appear to have completely missed the point of ebooks.

> You appear to have completely missed the point of ebooks. And that point is?

That they have a much higher density of information per kilogram than paper books.

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#292
post #153
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm fine with watermarks. The only downside to them is that they are traceable to the original buyer if someone else gets their hands on your and decides to distribute it online, so lending them to a friend is risky. But the watermarks really only matter when they get illegally copied around, and don't hurt the owner in the way more restrictive forms of DRM do.

Risky how? Is there some punishment for not perfectly securing bytes? That would be insane because companies aren't punished for sharing your stuff by accident or even selling it on purpose.

Maybe they should be.

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#293
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm fine with watermarks. The only downside to them is that they are traceable to the original buyer if someone else gets their hands on your and decides to distribute it online, so lending them to a friend is risky. But the watermarks really only matter when they get illegally copied around, and don't hurt the owner in the way more restrictive forms of DRM do.

in the blind community I'm a part of, there are a lot of ebooks floating as plaintext files, with watermarks either stripped or replaced by something like "there was a watermark here, but it has been stripped. Keep trying".

There will always be hacking. When you sell ebooks without drm and with just reasonable watermarking, you remove all the incentive for ethical hacking. This remains only the unethical hacking (the thieves).

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DRM is technically a crime, too. It's infringing upon First Sale Doctrine. You, as someone buying media, actually have rights to what you purchase. The general public has just accepted the industry trampling on those rights and lobbying for laws that conflict with them.

You're not buying a book on Amazon, you're buying a personal license to use a book.

I would argue you're not, because when you buy a book you can choose between hardcopy and kindle - and there's nothing visibly telling you that with one option you get to own the book, with the other you're merely licensing.

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#295
post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You appear to have completely missed the point of ebooks. And that point is?

That they have a much higher density of information per kilogram than paper books.

That's not "the point" of ebooks, it's just one attribute they have.

I'm well aware that you can fit lots of ebooks in one device, but so far I've not been particularly limited by the information density of regular books.

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pirate ebooks for this reason. If I like the book or the book has valuable illustration done in color I will purchase the physical copy, otherwise backing up my calibre library according to 3-2-1 is easy peasy.

No, you pirate because you're selfish and self-entitled.

Thank you so much for the analysis, I will file it accordingly.

I must be very self entitled for downloading a digital representation of a book which I have paid for.

Re: When Microsoft's eBook store closes, your books disappear too

#297
post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That they have a much higher density of information per kilogram than paper books.

That's not "the point" of ebooks, it's just one attribute they have. I'm well aware that you can fit lots of ebooks in one device, but so far I've not been particularly limited by the information density of regular books.

No, ok, fair enough, but it’s pretty easy to imagine scenarios where the information density makes a difference. Any working trip away from your home/office bookshelves, for example.
Post reply on HN