What really vexes me about stuff like this is that the rich parent's kids already have all the advantages they could possibly wish for. Why would they take away the one thing that might level the playing field a bit: education for those who worked very hard to get admitted and then get pre-empted by someone else who won the birthday lottery?
FBI accuses wealthy parents in college-entrance bribery scheme
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#292Anyone seen any information about what's expected to happen to the kids of these lowlife scum? I'm assuming they'll be expelled, just haven't seen it actually mentioned explicitly anywhere.
I highly doubt it. They aren't being charged and supposedly had no idea. And they have affluenza to boot.
Perhaps the tennis admission - there's no way she could not have known.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I hear stuff like this I wonder what in the hell could have been so great about their experience that they'd want to do something like that. It makes me wonder what I missed out on in college that I don't feel the same way. Did I just by chance happen to not go to some meeting or join some club that would have changed everything?
> Did I just by chance happen to not go to some meeting or join some club that would have changed everything? Probably? Personally my first semester at uni was depressingly dull other than the novelty and the subjects (well, mostly dull there too but the future semesters looked interesting and I was programming for the first time). By chance I was walking through a club recruitment event when a single person stopped…
>Personally my first semester at uni was depressingly dull other than the novelty and the subjects
Sorry to hear that. What are some ways to cheat school? (waste of time)
Edit: apart from catching on your reading (listening) and scrolling on hackernews.
Re: FBI accuses wealthy parents in college-entrance bribery scheme
#294US high school senior here. Made a throwaway for this. Seeing this makes my blood boil. Not only is it essentially an open secret that the admissions process actively discriminates against Asians and other high-achieving ethnic groups--and gives a massive leg up to legacies, children of donors, etc.--these people thought they were good enough, by virtue of their wealth, to bribe and cheat their way into these top uni…
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then the university should advertise the cost of admission and make it fair for everyone.
> Then the university should advertise the cost of admission and make it fair for everyone. if you have to ask for price ... :)
... then you’re not an insanely rich douche?
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#296Oh dear God. Reading into the indictments, it seems that a lot of the kids never had a clue that they were complicit in the schemes: >... and it was like, the kids though, and it was funny 'cause the kids will call me and say, "Maybe I should do that again. I did pretty well and if I took it again, I'll do better even" Right? And they just have no idea that they didn't even get the score that they thought they got. C…
Their parents committed felony fraud to get them into college, do you not think the first thing they did was to call their kids up and tell them to say they didn’t know anything about it and let the family lawyers take care of it?
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#297This is why they should make it law that your kids can't attend a university if you've donated there. This and the legacy admissions nonsense is beyond absurd. It's why I roll my eyes so hard when investors say that attending a top school is a "signal" that makes you a better bet to invest in as a founder. That signal is pretty damn weak if those top schools so rampantly accept bribes.
> they should make it law that your kids can't attend a university if you've donated there.
Wow, not so fast. I'm a Stanford grad and I donate a bit of money every year when they ask. Should my future kids be excluded from admissions? There's a world of difference between donating and donating to get your kids admitted.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this any more corrupt than any other exchange of services for money? Yes, there's a system available to the masses that the super-rich are bypassing using their wealth. The same is true of anyone who flies by private jet, or anyone with private health insurance in a country where the vast majority of the population uses the public health system. Are these things "corrupt"? What's different here? If there's no…
>> The same is true of anyone who flies by private jet, or anyone with private health insurance in a country where the vast majority of the population uses the public health system. Are these things "corrupt"? Short answer: The difference lies in the transfer of wealth to the next generation and our meritocratic values. As a society, we have a value system that we implicitly adhere to. At least in the US, meritocracy…
I'm happy to concede that it's a violation of the ideal of meritocracy, and already did. But so, for that matter, is buying your child a private jet or buying your child health insurance that others can't afford. It's the fact that money is being spent by a parent on a child who hasn't earned it that makes it unmeritocratic. The case of this being done for a university place is still not special, and it's still not corrupt.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't some of the kids had to have been on it? They posed for picture of sports they didn't even play, and must have referenced it on their application
> They posed for picture of sports they didn't even play, and must have referenced it on their application What makes you think they wrote their own application?
Well, that seems just as bad.
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#300I wonder if the applicants bumped by the bribed admissions would be able to bring legal action against all parties in this case? The amount of income lost by rejection to a prestigious school would seem to be a large number.