If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.
Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#292There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…
Notion's founder here. Thank you for the kind words - we are honored :-) To be honest, nothing we are doing is that new. Most of the ideas came from the 70s-80s (Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson...) We are just applying a fresh coat of paint. Of course, there's still a lot more to be done to fully realize these pioneers' dreams of computing as a medium for everyone – not just programmers like us. If you are inter…
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#293I really, really want something like this as a desktop, fully native app, for personal use, and maybe with Groove-like peer to peer sync for small, closed groups.
> Groove-like peer to peer sync This guy gets it. Groove is one of my favorite examples of the damage done by Microsoft in the 90's. That product would STILL be useful today, 20 years later. I still wonder: Did Ozzie make the product just to get acquihired? Is there anything that does this out there? EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe OneNote does this in the background.
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#294There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…
Say what you will about Electron apps that use excessive resources and lack native touches, but they are definitely not “as close to painting the back of the fence as it gets.” That Jobs-ism was specifically about caring about the internals of a product that nobody looks at, but you know are there.
The Steve Jobs quip about painting the back of the fence sought to explain why the Apple II and Mac teams cared so much about the inside of the box and even signed it. It's why they invested so much in the OS X internals and stuck with a native focus that helped iOS be so fast and nimble out of the gate on extremely resource-constrained mobile devices. That's "painting the back of the fence."
It is a very distinct concept from focusing on user-visible details, which I think is what you're referencing here. That's still the front of the fence. Back of the fence is the fine touches on the unseen internals, but reflect a general care and pride in your craft that will probably pay off in the long run.
"And while sacrifices were often made of money, time and frustration, users of Apple products often reaped the rewards."[1] This is definitely not the Electron approach. It's about taking the extra time and care to do it native. You can chose that path or not, but understand what this very important element of Apple's philosophy means because it affects so much of the past couple decades of our industry.
[1] https://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-obsession...
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one thing I've wanted. A local app that lets me store all my data with markdown syntax, syntax highlighting, in local files and directories, specifically for macOS although a cross platform app would be fine. One that doesn't require an account or the internet at all for it to work. I've wanted this kind of app for many years (and wouldn't be opposed to making it if no existing solution is all that great at i…
Emacs with org mode, helm, and projectile as a starting point would hit all of your asks (although org syntax has differences from markdown, it's still quite intuitive). I use org mode for: my tasks (gtd style), food log (using org columns), notes (easy export to any other format), habits. Alongside beorg for iOS for quick capturing on the go, I cannot imagine I would be any happier elsewhere.
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
These types of "services" should be opt-in, not opt-out.
Not that it should be necessary, notion should not be violating you're privacy by default, but at least uBlock/uMatrix block the entire fullstory domain by default.
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#297Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll let you know when I make the initial public release.
If you don't mind, could you ping me as well? I'm looking for a similar solution
I very much want to talk about it, but it feels a little meaningless to do so until I've shipped it :)
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#299I made a list earlier (using Notion) of some next-get productivity platforms that caught my eye if anyone is interested:
https://www.notion.so/Next-gen-Productivity-Platform-Researc...
It includes both these all-in-one type of tools along with nice project management and spreadsheet/db tools like airtable.
Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases
#300Hmm, I cannot seem to create an account without sharing my Google contacts; which I see no need to do and it's needless friction. I get into a loop of clicking checkbox "I don't want to share my Google contacts", then being rerouted back to login page and requested approval to share my contacts. Pricing wise, I wish these types of apps didn't have such a steep escalation as soon as I want to share. $4 for individual,…