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Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by jws »

mroche wrote: post #273

For those of you using GitLab, BitBucket, or , does this make you consider switching back at all? If so, why? It may be myopic, but the only major reason I can think of is visibility if you plan on publicizing the repo at some point. But you can achieve this by using GitHub as a mirror for your main repo on another platform (at least for GitLab, I’m not familiar with BitBucket). Edit: Personally, I use GitLab (both .…

I use BitBucket for my solo private repositories specifically because it was free. They are a trivial load to the provider in both storage and transactions.

Repositories which I make public I put on GitHub since that seems to be where people will find them and are more likely to contribute.

Had this policy been in place when I started using git I never would have found and used Bitbucket, but I don't feel anything is gained by moving my private BitBuckets to GitHub.

Update: I see another reply talking about the web interfaces. If I used them that might be a factor, but for my private stuff the only web functions I use are for creating the repositories, and both platforms get that done easily enough.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by mroche »

holtalanm wrote: post #280
mroche wrote: post #273

For those of you using GitLab, BitBucket, or , does this make you consider switching back at all? If so, why? It may be myopic, but the only major reason I can think of is visibility if you plan on publicizing the repo at some point. But you can achieve this by using GitHub as a mirror for your main repo on another platform (at least for GitLab, I’m not familiar with BitBucket). Edit: Personally, I use GitLab (both .…

yeah. I'm dropping Bitbucket in favor of this for my private projects. BitBucket's UI is so un-intuitive that I (most of the time) dread actually having to log into the web UIs for it. I'm also just much more comfortable with GitHub since I use it daily in my day job.

Fair point. I've only been to a few BitBucket repos in the past year or two and I never really enjoyed the experience.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by sangnoir »

iambateman wrote: post #217
maxander wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All true, but why mot data mine too, while they’re at it? If you’re not the customer you’re a product... but it doesn’t follow that, if you are the customer, you’re not also a product.

Sure. My point is that I expect them to be respectful, not avaricious. Microsoft's knows they ought not piss off 28 million developers.

...or else what? Are the developers going to mass-migrate to SourceForge?[1] Github has a lot of leeway/social capital - they are hardcoded into the infrastructure both literally and figuratively.

edit: 1. I literally forgot about Gitlab as a Github substitute when I wrote the comment, interpret that as you may.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by bg0 »

nickjj wrote: post #284
bg0 wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link where you see this? I can't seem to find it

Not sure what you're requesting, but I'm guessing the details about Gitlab's free offerings? It's on their pricing page at https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/ .

My fault, I was looking at the blog post and didn't see anything mentioned

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by geezerjay »

moritzplassnig wrote: post #240
iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

> It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective.

Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by woolvalley »

sqs wrote: post #287
beagle3 wrote: post #250

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In what world is 12.5% of revenue "irrelevant"? The 37.5% business revenue is just 3 times as much (so almost as irrelevant), and Enterprise is only 4 times is much (again, almost as irrelevant). Unless .. all github revenue is irrelevant for Microsoft - which might be true, for all I know.

I bet it's much less than 12.5% now (since 2016). Also, individual user revenue is revenue that public investors value less than revenue from businesses, because there is perceived to be a much bigger overall market (and therefore more future potential growth) in selling to businesses rather than individuals. And growth is what matters for the stock price. Source: I am the CEO of Sourcegraph and consider similar thin…

What I've always found funny about "B2B is more valuable than B2C" is how all economic value eventually comes from B2C eventually, and all the meta B2B tools in between don't really make value independently on their own.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by woolvalley »

sangnoir wrote: post #293
iambateman wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. My point is that I expect them to be respectful, not avaricious. Microsoft's knows they ought not piss off 28 million developers.

...or else what? Are the developers going to mass-migrate to SourceForge?[1] Github has a lot of leeway/social capital - they are hardcoded into the infrastructure both literally and figuratively. edit: 1. I literally forgot about Gitlab as a Github substitute when I wrote the comment, interpret that as you may.

Bitbucket, gitlab, some other new service that takes advantage of the gap left by mismanagement?

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by LyndsySimon »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #33
LyndsySimon wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really unfortunate :( I'd be interested to see if you do a post-mortem on this - what the consequences were, and what steps you end up taking to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

The upshot may well be that this gentleman and/or this publication no longer receives embargoed information anymore, at least for a time.

I don't know if that's an "upshot", but I'd be interested to know if that happens.

One way to help ensure that it doesn't happen is to take steps to prevent it and post a post-mortem explaining both what caused it to happen and why it won't in the future.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by dtrailin »

__john wrote: post #26

One thing I like about bitbucket/atlassian over github is bitbucket's pipelines[1] and the bitbucket-pipelines.yml file. I really wish github had something like that. [1] https://bitbucket.org/product/features/pipelines

Azure pipelines is basically the same thing and offers free build to for private repos.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by nickjj »

0x0 wrote: post #286
nickjj wrote: post #232

While I think this is a great move, don't forget that private repos also means no more free Travis CI. Gitlab CI however offers 2,000 build minutes a month with their integrated CI service. Even if your whole set up takes 10 minutes to build on CI, that's 200 builds a month which is plenty for an individual project that's on a private repo. In other words, I think Gitlab's free private repos + CI is still a better ch…

Also, the best part about gitlab CI - it's super easy to install gitlab-runner on your own and enjoy unlimited build minutes, even on the free plan. Plus you get to set up your buildbot environment just the way you like - even with access to LAN-only resources in case you need them.

That's an excellent point, and I haven't looked into that yet because I never went past the 2k minutes per month.

But if you did need > 2k minutes, it sounds like a good idea to spin up a $5 / month DO server to be a dedicated runner. That sure beats paying $50+ / month for most other CI services for their most basic paid plans, especially if you're just a solo developer or small team who wants a nice coding experience.

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