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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…

Probably also needs some kind of purchasing power parity adjustment - divide by the cost of a specified size of house within a reasonable commuting distance, for example.

That goes only so far. Macbooks cost the same, and you ain't getting your car cheaper than in the States.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you earn 3 times as much, but wind up spending 3 times as much, you are still saving 3 times as much. It's almost always better to get high pay in a high CoL area, than to get low pay in a low CoL area.

Parent is obviously not saving much if they have to spend 50% net on rent, $6k/month is only $72k a year, which is really tough even in a lower cost place like Seattle or Austin.

Net vs gross

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I think this is really interesting and glad OP posted it as a reference. I just assumed that everyone saves their digital paystubs and calculating precise salary at any point in ones career is trivial. I was surprised when OP was unsure of salary amounts or when precisely raises went into effect. While I think this is cool from a career planning perspective, I don’t think it’s very useful from OP’s aim of correcting…

Not everyone is a digital packrat and compulsive organizer.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #291
post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably also needs some kind of purchasing power parity adjustment - divide by the cost of a specified size of house within a reasonable commuting distance, for example.

That goes only so far. Macbooks cost the same, and you ain't getting your car cheaper than in the States.

Not everyone needs a Macbook (or a car) :)

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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These threads always invite the outliers (i.e. those who want to humble brag). Here's mine outside Washington/California/Silicon Valley/NYC:

- $40K: 2010-2013, "DevOps" at small startup. No ownership/shares.

- $45-72K: 2014-Current, Programmer (various job titles) working for state's education department

Even management here only make $90K capping out around $115K~. But cost of living is low.

These threads never have people posting their boring salaries from low cost of living areas, I'm trying to buck that trend.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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White male, graduated from quite a good school in France in 2006. Wages in gross, 33% tax on it. And the employer also pays 33% tax on gross, for social insurances. - 2006: 36k€, Java/js dev in Luxembourg/banking - 2007-2010: 35k€, Java dev in France, service company, - 2011-2013: 70k$, Java dev in Australia - 2014: Startup founder (France), 30k€ - 2015: Startup founder, 50k€, - 2016: Startup founder, 60k€ - 2017: St…

Perhaps I could help you with your feeling of failure with some data of mine:

I can't post half of my career here due to a technically illegal NDA breaching of which would still result in an long and expensive court battle so here are my numbers:

I got my first real job in early 2012.

2015-2017: €27k (€21.5k after taxes because of magical tax breaks for "new companies" - actually B2B contractors)

2017-present: €31 (€23.4k after taxes)

I currently spend half of my time in Warsaw, Poland and the other half in Bologna, Italy, so my living expenses are low, but not low low, e.g. I rent a studio apartment for €500 + other expenses.

I also reached the hourly rate cap for my position at my company so in order to get a raise I would need to switch jobs, which is what I'm intending to do by the end of the year.

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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No college, certs only. 2003-2006 SysAdmin $30k in FL. (No certs) as an FTE. 2006-2012 Netadmin $35k in FL. (a+, net+, sec+) as an FTE. 2012 SysEng $85k in OR. (CEH v7) as contractor at Intel. 2013 Pentester $110k in OR. as contractor at Intel. 2014 Security Analyst $150k in OR. Contractor at local power company. 2015 Sr. Security Analyst $120k in OR as FTE at insurance company. 2016 SecEng $170k in OR as FTE at aws…

How do you like AWS? You seem to have done really well there recently.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…

Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.

Perhaps the guy is really good/ambitious? I've had to deal with the stigma of being "above average", and it bothers me when I hear stuff like this. This sort of thinking stops people who have the drive to do something, and it makes them delay their enthusiasm until others feel they deserve a chance. That's just terrible in my opinion. And it's probably part of the reason why so many young people start a startup or go and work for one; so their talent and enthusiasm can actually yield something worthwhile, rather than be hindered by various corporate paradigms.
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