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An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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Part of me feels like this stunt is clever because the nature of the performance improves the value of the work. So it's self-destructive in the technical sense of the term but it was designed in such a way to essentially transform the piece. While shocking in the moment, as the pictures of the scene show, the work has three separate qualities: the original significance of the piece, the new meaning it attains after…

This is kind of what Fomo3D was.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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Two orders of magnitude above something that’s already a ridiculous amount of money globally speaking. That’s not exactly reasonable , the fact that it’s not that much money compared to the real super-rich people is just a reminder of the unfortunate reality of long-tail economy.

I suppose I don't really understand. Why do you think it is bad to have rich people? It's often stated as if it's tautologically true, or self-evident. What do you think is the harm caused by that? Would the rest of us be better off if we simply deleted the money of the rich?

That's obviously a wrong question to ask. Multibillionaires are a symptom, not the disease.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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post #287

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I suppose I don't really understand. Why do you think it is bad to have rich people? It's often stated as if it's tautologically true, or self-evident. What do you think is the harm caused by that? Would the rest of us be better off if we simply deleted the money of the rich?

That's obviously a wrong question to ask. Multibillionaires are a symptom, not the disease.

Symptom of what? High productivity?

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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post #201

Part of me feels like this stunt is clever because the nature of the performance improves the value of the work. So it's self-destructive in the technical sense of the term but it was designed in such a way to essentially transform the piece. While shocking in the moment, as the pictures of the scene show, the work has three separate qualities: the original significance of the piece, the new meaning it attains after…

> And on an extra level, I have started to wonder how such a piece could be represented through programming. The website that rots, pixel by pixel, when it isn't viewed; or the application that subtly corrupts itself over time. I suppose that's also already true today. Unmaintained software rots; the OS moves on and the software no longer runs. DRMed software has its servers shut down. Online games get shut down. Etc…

https://codepen.io/leemartin/pen/pxNvod

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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> And on an extra level, I have started to wonder how such a piece could be represented through programming. The website that rots, pixel by pixel, when it isn't viewed; or the application that subtly corrupts itself over time. I suppose that's also already true today. Unmaintained software rots; the OS moves on and the software no longer runs. DRMed software has its servers shut down. Online games get shut down. Etc…

https://codepen.io/leemartin/pen/pxNvod

Nice.

One issue: the overlay parts are positioned using onload JS, and do not reposition on resize.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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Please tell me which other ingenious and clever marketing stunts Banksy, the anti-capitalist artist who refuses to allow his work or even prints (with rare exceptions) to be sold is known for?

> Banksy, the anti-capitalist artist (Alleged) anti-capitalism and marketing are not mutually exclusive. Banksy has an eye for publicity, from selling his art for $60 on New York’s streets [1] to parading a painted packiderm [2]. Whether it’s to sell his art (which it does), sell his name (which it also does) or sell his ideas (which it does, too) is orthogonal to it being clever and effective marketing. [1] https://…

Pachyderm.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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post #137

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Please tell me which other ingenious and clever marketing stunts Banksy, the anti-capitalist artist who refuses to allow his work or even prints (with rare exceptions) to be sold is known for?

For an "anti-capitalist", he sure has a lot of books for sale on Amazon.

Being against capitalism doesn't mean total aversion to commerce or the capital it generates., but opposition to market forces being the dominant ideology. Even hard core communists I know don't mind if someone is a bit rich (eg worth a few million), but are opposed to the vast concentrations of capital in limited liability firms, and want industrial infrastructure to be publicly owned.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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The implication is that the frame was a recent addition and that Banksy or an accomplice was in the room to trigger the shredder at the right time

Having thought about it a bit, a shredder is a complicated and unreliable machine for a stunt like this. I reckon there was a roller hidden in the frame with (half) a pre-shredded painting on it. The roller then rolls in the main painting while dispensing the shredded version. Much simpler, and easier to test.

That's why it stuck half way, most likely. Shredders are unreliable but I wouldn't call them complicated. Small ones are expense and it only had to work once.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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Jeff Koons Art ist actually pretty good, I can’t say the same of Banksky. The value of Art is sometimes inversely related to how popular it is, because it then can be no longer used to signal that you „get“ it.

To each their own. I google-imaged Jeff Koons, and I didn't find any appealing to look at or would want around my house (except maybe giant flower puppy :P)

Well you have to see the pieces in person, I think some of them look fantastic if you already own a completely ridiculous mansion or a semi-public space like a luxury resort in Dubai or something. They are definitely cool to look at in a museum context, I saw them at the Centre Pompidou two years ago.

Re: An artwork by Banksy shredded itself after selling for $1.3M at Sotheby’s

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There are lithium batteries which can last up to 40 years, for example Tadiran.

How long can they power a radio though?

It only need to power it every few minutes for it to works, hell if you consider any interesting auction would be announced at least one month before, you can power it every month with something stronger like 3G to get a more precise day to be active.
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