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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

fiblye wrote: post #20

The CNN article about his death had this: >Suicide is a growing problem in the United States. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published a survey Thursday showing suicide rates increased by 25% across the United States over nearly two decades ending in 2016. I remember a while back that the general public's tone on suicide was a lot less sober. More of a "man up" sort of attitude. With a growing list…

> When people first start having these sorts of thoughts and even hint at it to other people, the whole "What are you depressed about? Your life is good" response so many people give only makes it worse, and hopefully it's beginning to go away. Depression has nothing to do with how "good" your life is on paper.

Personally, I don't really feel the "here's the suicide prevention hotline's number", "you should talk to someone", or "you should see a doctor" lines, which seem to be replacing that, are any better.

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Post by saw-lau »

dgzl wrote: post #161
sbenitoj wrote: post #157

My mother committed suicide 8 years ago, and this is something I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about and trying to understand (in part to ensure I never suffer the same fate). For anyone who has struggled with depression or severe anxiety, if you haven’t read the book The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, I encourage you to read it as soon as possible — it’s one of the best, most approacha…

As someone who's currently going through a wave serious depression, I'm curious about this book. Thanks for sharing.

Likewise. I'm devastated about the news, and it's brought back my demons to the fore.

Re: Anthony Bourdain has died

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Post by dang »

Ntrails wrote: post #60

>, I can only hope that people as a whole start seeing it as a complex issue and the stigma of mental issues and stress can lessen so that people can get help Possibly inappropriate - but why do people immediately link suicide and mental illness? Why do we stand in judgement declaring it wrong to decide ones own fate? Am I not the master of my own existence and do I not have the right to make a decision on it without…

I appreciate that you raised the question sincerely, but it's generic enough and baity enough that I detached it from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17264518 and marked it semi-off-topic.

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Post by Alex3917 »

yebyen wrote: post #257
Alex3917 wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is highly likely that many of the people that the CDC identify as having no known mental health condition were either undiagnosed or had kept their diagnosis private. Given that the vast majority of Americans have a diagnosable mental illness at some point during their lives, if anything that is evidence against there being a strong relationship between mental illness and suicide. E.g. supposedly more than 50% o…

Is it possible that the fact of receiving a diagnosis is more strongly correlated with the likelihood of getting help than you accounted for? Also, what is "diagnosable" – that sounds suspiciously different than "diagnosed." That doesn't even sound like a statistic that tracks against individuals, so I don't know how you could make an inference like that. Even if we saw the statistical effect you predicted (eg. diagn…

> Also, what is "diagnosable" – that sounds suspiciously different than "diagnosed."

Well it's an apple-to-apples comparison with the CDC stat about people with undiagnosed mental illness. Basically instead of waiting for people to go in and see a psychiatrist, you just screen every single person in a certain sample for every possible mental illness. This is how mental health assessments at a population level are normally done, e.g.:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/...

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/any-anxiety-disor...

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Post by betterworldb »

sbenitoj wrote: post #157

My mother committed suicide 8 years ago, and this is something I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about and trying to understand (in part to ensure I never suffer the same fate). For anyone who has struggled with depression or severe anxiety, if you haven’t read the book The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, I encourage you to read it as soon as possible — it’s one of the best, most approacha…

I'm definitely going to check this book out. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Post by mindgam3 »

sbenitoj wrote: post #157

My mother committed suicide 8 years ago, and this is something I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about and trying to understand (in part to ensure I never suffer the same fate). For anyone who has struggled with depression or severe anxiety, if you haven’t read the book The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, I encourage you to read it as soon as possible — it’s one of the best, most approacha…

+1 for The Body Keeps the Score. One of the most useful books on overcoming trauma I've ever read. The idea of Developmental Trauma Disorder is so much more constructive than other models.

So many of the things we call "diseases" can be traced to trauma. "Mental injury" may be a more useful construct than "mental illness". In the same way that your body can heal from a femur fracture, your psyche can heal from a trauma-induced mind fracture.

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Post by badminton1 »

seattle_spring wrote: post #261
badminton1 wrote: post #151

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Have you considered not using a tragedy as your little political soapbox?

Don't get me wrong. I think he did a great job, his show was very enjoyable and highly entertaining and his fame is well deserved.

He could make a successful show anywhere, from a very modest restaurant like Waffle House to a very fancy one.

Quoting another chef: "He brought the world into our homes and inspired so many people to explore cultures and cities through their food."

I am just saying, that long distance transportation technology doesn't scale in terms of carbon footprint right now, and that we should be mindful of that when traveling.

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Post by foobaw »

monkeynotes wrote: post #224
ada1981 wrote: post #49

I struggled with mental health issues my entire adult life. Psychosis, Schizophrenia, Biploar, Anxiety, Suicidal Depression, Panic Attacks. It wasn’t until I changed my relationship to all emotions and then sought out a variety of support to safely go deeply into my experience that I was able to find relief. 1 session of MDMA therapy lifted a decade of suicidal thoughts; session 2 a year later largely freed me of anx…

I wish I knew where to seek the treatment you found. I suffer from anxiety, depression, and trauma and it limits my potential every day. I have counselling but I find it extremely difficult to connect with the source of all of it and flush it out. I know it's in there, hiding. The ego death you speak of is what I invite every day but the negativity and shame that my ego has insulated itself with is extremely resilien…

I wish you the best. One thing that really helped a lot of my peers is Ketamine and there are treatment centers available in big cities.

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Post by geezerjay »

jderick wrote: post #296

Something I just learned: suicide is 120 times more prevalent among alcoholics and alcohol is involved in a quarter of all suicides. http://www.mces.org/pages/suicide_fact_alcohol.php

Coreelation doesn't imply causality. I'm sure some people dealing with depression seek refuge at the bottom of a bottle.
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