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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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What alternatives do you have in mind? I was thinking the same, but haven't done much research yet. I definitely want to have more control over my passwords.

I'm not sure what your criteria are but I've been using LastPass (Enterprise) with 2FA (Yubikey) for a couple years now. Aside from the Yubikey, the key benefit is I can share a folder with someone using the free version. It's not cheap but it works and afaik it's secure (esp with the Yubi).

1Password Family accounts have support for free guest accounts that can be used to share information with other people without requiring them to purchase.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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While I could understand people being upset about this, I pay for a 1password family subscription. It really is a terrific investment. As far as subscription services go it's about the best bang for my buck that I get. A sustainable service model is important for something I rely on so much - especially something that needs to keep on security lockdown. Also makes it easy for the family to share hulu, netflix, whatno…

I wonder if it's so much better than for example Bitwarden for families, which is $1/month. ( https://bitwarden.com ) Also, the switch to the "1password cloud", instead of the already freely available iCloud/Google Cloud/Dropbox etc, just seems like a move to make people believe their expensive subscription are justified. There was absolutely no demand for a "1password cloud". This entire push to subscription-hell ma…

I'd give them the $5 a month for a subscription but I want to host the data on iCloud.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I never liked 1pass. I don't like the fact that you have to install a desktop app to use the browser extension. Also the UI is a bit annoying and sometimes it feels like it just gets in my way. The UX for multiple vaults is not so obvious at times and you don't realize you are only searching one vault instead of everything. Copying and sharing between vaults is also annoying. I really don't see what 1pass does better…

Good news! With 1Password X you can use it without installing the desktop app:

https://blog.agilebits.com/2017/11/13/1password-x-a-look-at-...

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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security software > I really don't see what 1pass does better than LastPass > LP has a bad security reputation

Is there any reason to believe LP is currently less secure than 1pass? If anything, I assume LP has been more thoroughly audited by now

Does it still send unencrypted item URLs to the server?

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I never liked 1pass. I don't like the fact that you have to install a desktop app to use the browser extension. Also the UI is a bit annoying and sometimes it feels like it just gets in my way. The UX for multiple vaults is not so obvious at times and you don't realize you are only searching one vault instead of everything. Copying and sharing between vaults is also annoying. I really don't see what 1pass does better…

I've used 1Password on both Mac and Windows with Dropbox. The UI handles much more seamlessly on a Mac than on Windows, but I'm not sure where the blame lies on the Windows side.

I also tried using multiple vaults for reasons I can't remember, but that was just annoying, so eventually I just simplified.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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There is a non-subscription, licence-purchase model. They basically obfuscate it, (ok: kinder is "don't market it strongly") But there IS a licence model.

So mainly, the issue is how "hard" they make it to find. That, and the 'dont be evil, but hey, we changed our minds a bit' aspect to what was said in the past and now emerges.

The APP store doesn't help, but I think its ass-backwards to use that to "sell" the subscription model. Honestly? I could come into this now and not care, but as a licence holder, the way its being done irks me.

Just make it easier to find the licence option on the web page and in your apps, and I'll be good.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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It sounds like you feel like you underpaid. Then the solution is for them to charge more or charge for more of their products, not a subscription. A subscription basically forces you into paying for upgrades. The only thing a subscription model is good for is it wrestes power from the consumer. With the traditional model if they decide to stop updating the app, you wouldn’t buy the next version, and that would be you…

You can look at it from a different perspective. The customer could pay $5 and then cancel the subscription if they do not like the service. With the license purchase they have to make a large commitment upfront.

That's good for customers who ultimately cancel. For those actually using the service it will be a worse deal.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.

For now...

For ever.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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There are at least two elements to software maintenance: one is adding truly new features, and the other is making stupid changes just to keep old features working as they always did (often due to platform or hardware changes, especially with Apple!). I see Apple coughing up none of the costs that they create by regularly fiddling with their platforms and hardware in breaking ways, yet that is a big reason why softwa…

> There are at least two elements to software maintenance: one is adding truly new features, and the other is making stupid changes just to keep old features working as they always did (often due to platform or hardware changes, especially with Apple!). I'm OK with the model that VMware is using, at least on the Mac. You buy version X, you have version X. Version X gets updates for some amount of time. Eventually, a…

This is what this article is about. The App Store offers no mechanism for upgrade pricing, your only options are to 1. upgrade existing app (free for existing users) or 2. release a new app (full price for existing users).
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