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Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Post by azinman2 »

blindgeek wrote: post #229
bramd wrote: post #62

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> Here's a thought: how about you write a native app for each platform? I can guarantee that the hundreds, if not thousands, of engineers working on AppKit and Windows APIs are a lot better at getting this to work than your team. Not just that, but it took them months to implement some (mind you, still not all) features that are useful for blind users that someone already did in a userscript in a few days. So yeah, I…

So much this! I happen to be a blind software developer who has had just this sort of experience in years gone by. Web apps mean that you are at the mercy of the developers. Something can work one day and break the next. This is even more true for blind people than it is for the general public. Even if there is accessibility testing, I doubt that it covers my particular toolstack. I'm on Linux. So I'm doubly a niche…

Just curious — how do you effectively program blind? Seems to me like a really difficult problem because coding is about jumping around so quickly and needing to be able to scroll and grok at high speeds. You also have the issue of all kinds of specialized characters that are difficult for any kind of text-to-speech. Are there specialized Braille displays for this kind of stuff? How do you go back and forth between keyboard and such a thing effortlessly?

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Post by racer-v »

rekoros wrote: post #280
racer-v wrote: post #69

From what I have seen the best solution for bridging chat protocols is a "tube" from https://sameroom.io - not free though.

Free for some providers that have Sameroom-operated "BridgeBots". Any combination of Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe, Telegram, and Gitter is free to connect. We also had a Freenode BridgeBot, but couldn't get around the max connections per user issue.

Does that mean if I want to use an open source client with Slack, I can use the Gitter BridgeBot and open source Gitter client? Does it work with private Slack channels?

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Post by progval »

staz wrote: post #40
cortesoft wrote: post #5

I wonder how hard it would be to write a custom bridge with the real time api, to make your own IRC gateway?

One of my ex-colleague build one a while ago in less that a few days so I guess not that hard. But he is in the habit of making IRC gateway for everything he use

I'm interested. Do you have a link to his homepage/github profile/... ?

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

cyphar wrote: post #259
s73v3r_ wrote: post #235

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Has a huge spam problem...

But people posting tonnes of GIFs, emojis, and tagging @all on #general isn't spam? I don't disagree that email has a spam problem (though spam filters have gotten quite good in the past 20-30 years), just that spam isn't an email problem.

You can easily choose to be not be a part of that. You do not have that luxury on email.

Re: Tell HN: Slack decides to close down IRC and XMPP gateways

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Post by def_true_false »

evrydayhustling wrote: post #189
LeoPanthera wrote: post #145

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I really wanted to like Matrix but it expects you to independently verify the keys for each device every person is using. If they get a new device, new keys to verify. This is crazy. The keys should be per person, not per device.

This is an example of the kind of business problem Slack is solving incredibly well relative to {chat client X}. Slack's not just a Slack client, it's user lifecycle management, tiered administration, a granular permission model for integrated applications, etc etc etc. How you solve those problems impacts and is impacted by the messaging protocol. If Slack is going to keep moving fast on features that matter for bus…

This is an example of the kind of business problem Slack isn't solving at all. Or did they add e2e encryption recently?

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Post by amphibian87 »

Zak wrote: post #253
oconnor663 wrote: post #77

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Moxie Marlinspike has a blog post about why protocols like XMPP aren't good enough to support modern messaging apps. https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/ XMPP is an example of a federated protocol that advertises itself as a “living standard.” Despite its capacity for protocol “extensions,” however, it’s undeniable that XMPP still largely resembles a synchronous protocol with limited support for rich medi…

Tangentially related, I have to take issue with this: > addressing with user-owned identifiers like phone numbers Phone numbers are owned by telecoms, not users. Sometimes they're transferable between telecoms, but not always. I, in particular travel internationally often and do not maintain phone service in the same country continuously. I've had to change phone numbers with Signal and Whatsapp a couple times now an…

Turn message forwarding off and nothing will happen, I've lent my cell # to broke friends afew times to make a Google Voice account, and have a Voice number myself for Craigslist exchanges, lapses between paying my carrier, etc

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Post by fouc »

bringtheaction wrote: post #210
amarkov wrote: post #200

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These are not unrelated observations! The same people who expressed disbelief that your UI is temperamental will react the same way if Slack releases a temperamental UI. The difference is that they don't work in the same office as Slack. They'll never hear about all the important, completely justified reasons Slack decided to release a bad UI. They'll just notice it happened, and conclude that Slack must hire incompe…

What is a temperamental UI? It must have something with UX to do I am sure but can’t find anything on the first page of Google about it aside from one page that mention avoiding UIs to be temperamental but firstly that was all that was said it seems and secondly the forum is was posted on was, ironically, completely broken on mobile such that the text could not be seen. The page had a mobile navigation bar and the zo…

Here it's not a named concept, it's just "temperamental" + "UI". In this case, temperamental means "something that does not behave or work reliably."
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