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A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by kazinator »

why15characters wrote: post #285
Nomentatus wrote: post #213

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There's a massive difference in taste, and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell (eggs being single cells.) It's an excellent correlate of the overall health and nutritional value of the egg. If the egg can't even protect itself from breakage well, the rest of the egg isn't ideal, either.

>There's a massive difference in taste You feel that way, but all evidence says otherwise. >and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell Measuring that is objective, but there is no evidence it correlates with taste at all. >(eggs being single cells.) I honestly don't know how to say this nicely. You expect people to take your pseudo-…

> The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum.

Do these contribute additional cells to the egg that must be counted?

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by ehnto »

darkmarmot wrote: post #281
Toast_25 wrote: post #262

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How strong is the overworking culture in America? It's pretty strong here, but not too bad.

They once let me go home to sleep, but then I got called back for a hot fix.

We aimed to have two deploy brackets, Monday morning and Wednesday morning. If it is broken we roll back, fix it properly, redeploy at midday. If it can't be fixed in a day then it's properly broken and probably shouldn't have made it to release.

I worked at that agency for four years and did perhaps two weekends of overtime. Bliss. It can be done, and in an agency environment with client expectations.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by why15characters »

shitgoose wrote: post #95
vanjoe wrote: post #57

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Is that legal? In Canada I'm not sure your allowed to sell unpasteurised milk.

In Canada you go to jail for selling unpasteurized milk. http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/raw-milk-dairy-farmer-...

Canada is an extreme example though, we don't even come close to being a free country.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by jp555 »

lancebeet wrote: post #284
bogomipz wrote: post #278

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>"Most of the hipster microgreen crowd aren't even making their money that way, they are making it by scamming other hipsters into trying to do that by acting like anyone can make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year selling $10/pound lettuce to hipster restaurants." Can you elaborate on this? What exactly is the scam? How does the scam work?

There are lots of youtube channels (and similar) promoting this idea. These channels can generate a lot of ad revenue for their creators. I'm assuming that's what they're referring to.

Unless they’re among the top 500 YouTubers I bet they make more selling fresh basil than YouTube ads.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by thevardanian »

digitalengineer wrote: post #110
afpx wrote: post #96

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Hmm. To this unfashionable middle-aged guy, that sounds too complicated. I buy local produce simply because it often tastes better. And, I can afford to pay 50% more for better taste. I guess you could spin it to describe it as a lifestyle choice - my boring, middle-aged lifestyle. Like, my ‘I buy costco toilet paper’ lifestyle. That seems like a stretch. Or, maybe not.

If you think it will taste better, it will... (taste is based on more than your tongue).

Buying tomatoes even from wholefoods vs literally getting them freshly picked is a world of a difference. Carrots that come from Costco vs. carrots that were picked yesterday make a world of a difference. Onions look, and taste better than the ones you get in bulk. And I can go on. I've made side by side comparisons of both, and regardless of how you feel, I know personally that buying even the "organic" wholefoods variety of produce is a lot worse than freshly delivered CSA from a farm.

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Post by thevardanian »

Spooky23 wrote: post #105
ryguytilidie wrote: post #60

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>I don't buy a lifestyle from them, I buy fucking good milk from animals that are loved like family, and I'm proud to be helping them make a living doing something that is good for everyone(including the cows). It's not a lifestyle, it's just supporting people who aren't shitting on everyone's future. The things you say here seem like you are ABSOLUTELY buying a lifestyle here. ie. values for how animals should be tr…

"Lifestyle choice" implies a frivolous or even capricious choice in many contexts. Personally, the notion that we're taking a chicken raised in conditions "bad" for the chicken and for the quality of the product is just offensive and bad for everyone in the economic chain, save the big company. In a farming environment managed by a modern day tenant farmer, shipping it to China or some place in South Dakota to be but…

Buuuut Ethics is a lifestyle choice...

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Post by tfmatt »

jp555 wrote: post #295
lancebeet wrote: post #284

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There are lots of youtube channels (and similar) promoting this idea. These channels can generate a lot of ad revenue for their creators. I'm assuming that's what they're referring to.

Unless they’re among the top 500 YouTubers I bet they make more selling fresh basil than YouTube ads.

I would disagree with this, my small YouTube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6WpEeF48A7r032N486j1cQ ) generates a couple hundred a week at which point I rotate videos for newer fresh ones. And this channel is literally about saving money by buying things at thrift stores.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by dwaltrip »

swlkr wrote: post #244
clord wrote: post #112

We did this. My wife has a masters in microbio, and I worked at IBM on their C++ and for Fortran compilers for about 8 years (yay std::atomics). I still do remote contract work to help pay for upgrades to the farm. Would be nice to get one of my side-projects finished and start pumping out some income streams, but it's not a big rush anymore. I have a point of sale system built with React and Haskell that integrates…

This. I agree 100% that modern life is not as great as everyone thinks it is. Just getting outside and hiking was enough to convince me.

Hiking and camping can be part of a modern life. It is for me.

Re: A growing number of young Americans are leaving desk jobs to farm

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Post by driverdan »

JPKab wrote: post #243
clord wrote: post #112

We did this. My wife has a masters in microbio, and I worked at IBM on their C++ and for Fortran compilers for about 8 years (yay std::atomics). I still do remote contract work to help pay for upgrades to the farm. Would be nice to get one of my side-projects finished and start pumping out some income streams, but it's not a big rush anymore. I have a point of sale system built with React and Haskell that integrates…

I grew up in a rural community where farming was basically the only industry. It's easy to talk about how awesome it is when you basically are selling insanely overpriced boutique goods (organic, free-range, etc) to yuppies who are willing to pay triple for their calories. Once enough people do this, the prices fall and you're just another farmer, scraping by. I grew up working on farms. It's not romantic to me in an…

I wish I could upvote you twice. For some reason many people who have never farmed have this romantic vision of it. In reality farming is extremely hard work and requires a wide range of skills and knowledge to be successful.

If you're good at it you can make decent money but someone who's only worked desk jobs is not going to be good, at least not for a while.

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