Color me not shocked? The whole premise of this was ridiculous from the start
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
- A capsule coffee machine is way cheaper than an expresso machine. - Expressos are minimally hard to make correctly, and those capsules are above even the quality of some coffee shops. - There is a big movement of gourmet coffee that favors high priced drinks with the correct marketing (not perfectly correlated with quality). None of those seem to apply to Juicero. They may have aimed at the last point, but I don't…
It's espresso, not expresso. Capsule is far more expensive over the it's lifetime than something like a Gaggia Classic. Capsules aren't anywhere near the quality of coffee shops, unless you're counting Dunkin.
> Capsule is far more expensive over the it's lifetime than something like a Gaggia Classic. Capsules aren't anywhere near the quality of coffee shops, unless you're counting Dunkin.
To add on to this - many offices replace their teas with Keurig capsules as well. This leads to a tea that's much more expensive (capsules are something like 4 or 5 times the cost of a tea bag), dirtier, more complicated and more time consuming to make.
Looking at the popularity of Keurig machines, I'm not surprised people saw potential in Juicero.
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#293I think they went about getting to market wrong. They should not have targeted end consumers with their equipment. They should have went after the convenience store market using the soda dispenser/automated latte/vending machine/icee making business model. Basically convince the store owner to have some refrigerated space dedicated to the pouches and then put the machine nearby for the customer to make their own juic…
What value does this add over stocking various drinks, in containers, in a refrigerated case with no machine? I've noticed that the digital multi-flavor soda dispensers create more customer bottlenecks compared the regular 4-6 nozzle dispensers. Having every customer figure out how to load a "juice pack" then operate the machine seems like it would have a similar inconveniencing effect.
I don't see a lot of differences between the self serve milkshake machines in gas stations and this proposed self serve juicer.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The problem with Juicero is that their user experience laid bare how futile and ridiculous their product was by having consumers manufacture the product themselves. Blue Apron and every other meal kit delivery business sits on the other end of the same road, yet they seem to be doing okay and without the same level of ridicule. I wonder whether Juicero could have avoided this outcome had they mailed their customers…
I agree Blue Apron is equally ridiculous and I totally agree that Juicero marketed to the wrong crowd. Juicero was too visible in high-standard markets and thus became an easy target. Whereas Blue Apron flew under the critic radar (mostly in Facebook mom feeds) before gaining enough market share for consumers to shrug off ridicule
As a former blue apron customer I don't think it was ridiculous. I churned when my wife was out of the country. There are still recipes that they sent that I still cook. Now as a business I don't think they will be able to compete with a hybrid solution that amazon/Whole Foods will be able to devise. But I see Juicero as completely different.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am fully aware that this is business as usual these days, but that doesn't make it any less destructive to society or any less a scam. What you're saying is basically that as long as people fall for it and you don't go to jail it's ok, I don't agree.
There wasn't much fraudulent or dishonest about Juciero. It was overpriced, stupid, and a totally unnecessary luxury item, but that's not the same thing as scamming people.
Apart from the fact that the founders clearly didn't intend to fold the company (removing the malice part of a scam), as a consumer, spending $700 on something that stops functioning nearly immediately is pretty indistinguishable from a scam.
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Pediasure/Ensure show that the market that Soylent enters actually exists.
Odwalla/Naked Juice?
For Odwalla/Naked juice:
Do you pay 8 dollars per bottle, need to wait for it to arrive in the mail, pay $400 for the juice press to make it, and get locked into a single product for all of your "fruit juice needs"?
The last 3 words make this all the more stupid.
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#297Magnificent engineering to solve a stupid non-problem. Sigh.
I don't think we have the same definition of magnificent.
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HELP the neighborhood is flooded and the network is down, now I cant feed myself!
interestingly enough much of Houston had running electricity the whole time. We have an office downtown that flooded and never went to backup power and the datacenters stayed on the mains as well.
Yes, it's been incredible. My ATT fiber has been ROCK solid and not dropped a byte as far as I can tell.
I've been working from home all week, and we had electricity and internet right through the storm.
That's with 3 feet of water in the street outside.
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Juice is not addictive as caffeine, perhaps that’s why.
- A capsule coffee machine is way cheaper than an expresso machine. - Expressos are minimally hard to make correctly, and those capsules are above even the quality of some coffee shops. - There is a big movement of gourmet coffee that favors high priced drinks with the correct marketing (not perfectly correlated with quality). None of those seem to apply to Juicero. They may have aimed at the last point, but I don't…
Espresso is are more sensitive to the quality of the beans being used and the evenness of the grind than the machinery. Personally, I don't like most coffee shop espresso - beans are roasted so much they taste burnt and chemical, and any character from the terroir has been lost. For similar reasons, I think most capsule coffee is disgusting.
I get my beans whole, by subscription, grind them myself just before making an espresso. Another advantage of starting from the beans (apart from something that is actually pleasant to drink) is that you can select lots of other brewing methods, whether it's aeropress or moka pot, cafetiere or filter, with different grind levels as appropriate.
Also if you like milk-based coffee products (where the taste of the coffee is far more diluted, and the quality is less relevant), having a steam wand is handy and much better than any attachment I've used on any coffee machine, including Nespresso, and other much more expensive models that do bean to cup.
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#300It is a shame that Juicero could not develop a product with a lower price point that could reach a much broader marketplace. With the initial price point they should have clearly seen that their customer pool was going to be smaller than that of a lower cost product. It seems that they did not have enough time and money to right their ship. It is sad to see a dream die even if you don't agree with the product or busi…
I don't think the price point per se is an issue, people happily pay over 400 for a quality juicer. But the kind of person who does that probably wants the full experience, chopping the vegetables etc. This experience just seems too similar to just buying high quality juice in the shop. I know this model works for coffee, but there the prefab alternative is not an option.
Most people I know with juicers also like the fact that they can save money by throwing in fruit or veg before it goes bad. It makes it easier to capture the shopping surplus that otherwise ends up in the trash. The QR-code scanning Juicero basically does the opposite.