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Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by geff82 »

asveikau wrote: post #251
geff82 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who just filled out their DS-160 visa application and paid money for the application and now being left alone due to the new "travel ban" (wife and mother in law Iranian) I just say: let this country be alone for a while. I don't know when the US government (and the voters) will gain back consciousness and be part of the international community again in a positive way. Other countries are much more open ri…

> let this country be alone for a while Please don't leave us alone with these people. We in the US need you more than ever.

Despite the situation being uncomfortable, we really wanted to... but US government just will not let us. I am already exempt of ESTA and need a regular visa because I travel to Iran now and then. For all my 35 years of life, I wanted to become live in the US, and now that I could afford it, it is made impossible by the government (even when my wife has a German passport in a year, we could only do it if we accepted that maybe no persian family member can visit us.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by 0x0 »

fnj wrote: post #176
0x0 wrote: post #159

Would it be possible to change the license of cURL to one that denies usage inside the US? :P

If you have control of the copyright, yes, you could change the license from straight GPL to any kind of customized license you want. I guess you could restrict access to any group you want. But if it's open source, it would be pretty difficult to enforce your policy. Even if you closed the source, ruining it for linux, what good would that do? The cat is out of the bag already. Anybody could just use the existing op…

Debian had non-US repositories in the past and it didn't "ruin it for linux". Perhaps they could be brought back, with the addition of geoblocking US clients from accessing the non-US repository.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by timv »

Taniwha wrote: post #46
kyrra wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was at his local airport in Sweden. To quote some tweets: "They denied me entry on ESTA with no explanation. Already at check-in in Sweden. =( or rather instead of check-in" "I only got to the airport locally. My passport was flagged somehow so the airline wouldn't let me check in, called to ask why... So they say" Edit: ESTA is this: https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/ So the DHS denied him for some reason.

but when you apply for an ESTA you get told you've been 'approved' - you use this as a basis for booking a flight and travelling, if they're going to take it back without telling you (they have your email address) that really sucks, kind of passive aggressive

The whole ESTA application system is horrid.

If your approval isn't immediate (mine wasn't) then you have to keep checking back to see if/when it gets approved - they don't email you.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by baby »

gergles wrote: post #264
baby wrote: post #228

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I do not get your point. The ESTA is the only way to get to the country if you're going to a conference or on holidays or to visit someone. If you're looking for better, you need to find a job to sponsor you and you need to go through the lottery (H1B). Or you need to work for a US company abroad for more than a year (L1). Or you need to get married with an american person.

You can absolutely get a B-1 or B-2 visa. Only VWP-eligible country citizens are even eligible to get an ESTA in the first place. https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visitor.html You fill out a DS-160 and go through the process, but you don't have to get an ESTA. You are always allowed to apply for a full visa instead. More succinctly, click the "May I apply for a visa instead of using the VWP?" question…

You can get a B-1 or B-2 visa if you're not on the list of countries eligible for an ESTA.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by nojvek »

geff82 wrote: post #162
geff82 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who just filled out their DS-160 visa application and paid money for the application and now being left alone due to the new "travel ban" (wife and mother in law Iranian) I just say: let this country be alone for a while. I don't know when the US government (and the voters) will gain back consciousness and be part of the international community again in a positive way. Other countries are much more open ri…

I say those words as probably the biggest USA-fanboy one could imagine, the guy who defended almost any obscure US policy. But right now, I can not do this any more. I can live with the liberals, I can live with the conservatives, but I can not live with aggressive political stupidness.

Were at least stuck with this stupidity for 4 years. A financial crash is probably due in that time.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by microtherion »

y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #40

This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them l…

Politically, this might be a good idea.

Pragmatically, this has problems of its own. Most sufficiently large tech companies have a number of employees at any given time who may legally reside and work in the US, but cannot legally leave it and return. This is a common stage in the H1B -> Green Card transition process.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

gtirloni wrote: post #83
efoto wrote: post #36

"Don't assume malice when stupidity is an adequate explanation." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

My exact thoughts. The bureaucracy/machinery is so complex that it could have been any minor error in the paperwork. For a person, this is their worst day. For a huge bureaucracy, nothing.

Quite possible there's some Scandinavian criminal that happens to have the same name, for example.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by bubinubn »

yodon wrote: post #287
humanrebar wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I voted for a third party candidate. I know many who voted down ticket and left the presidential ballot blank. And it doesn't make sense, but I can understand why someone would feel like not voting at all out of disgust.

I suspect I'm not alone in wishing you had cast your vote in a way that mattered. Hopefully in hindsight it's clear no one "listened" to your deep moral convictions (or whatever) that led you to vote for that third party or to led your friends to vote blank top of ballot entries. You simply fell prey to a focused disinformation campaign that actively tried to prevent intelligent voters from voting and that worked, pr…

This logic doesn't really work out...it seems to also hold that everyone who voted for HRC also voted in a way that didn't matter, so they might as well have just stayed home (the outcome would be no different).

Also, it really reads as just a not-very-thinly-veiled accusation that people who do not vote for the candidate that you want to win are stupid and/or naive. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that, necessarily, but you might as well just say it. I disagree with both the rhetoric and the conclusion entirely, but your opinion is what it is.

Personally, I think this kind of thinking leads to the negative outcomes that pervade our political system. Even if third parties have no chance of winning, the idea that they might not be able to bank on the votes of people scared of the "wrong lizard" might force them to moderate their political stands.

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by dragonwriter »

nickserv wrote: post #79
humanrebar wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense. Americans, especially outsi…

> Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense. Sorry but they don't get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office. > Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas. I've found qu…

> Sorry but they don't get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office.

Nowhere near half of Americans voted Trump into office. (Now, if you want to criticize a very large share of eligible voters for abstaining, that's valid, but abstaining isn't the same as voting for Trump.)

Re: Author of cURL denied entry to the USA

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Post by polotics »

microtherion wrote: post #296
y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #40

This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ... These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them l…

Politically, this might be a good idea. Pragmatically, this has problems of its own. Most sufficiently large tech companies have a number of employees at any given time who may legally reside and work in the US, but cannot legally leave it and return. This is a common stage in the H1B -> Green Card transition process.

And it is acceptable to turn inoccents into a country's prisoners? This is also sick.
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