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The Mac Pro Lives

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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by draw_down »

VelNZ wrote: post #229

Wow, what a torrent of negativity on this thread, I didn't see a single positive comment reading through the top level. This is excellent news, I'm chugging along on a 2010 Mac Pro and was very disappointed when the Apple Displays were cancelled last year. They are a staple of the lineup and always look gorgeous compared to what's on the market. I will definitely be buying the new Mac Pro and 2 displays to go with it…

I'm sorry but you should be at the very least impatient with them, as a customer. This thing doesn't even come out until 2018 and you're using the 2010.

Look, I use Apple products all day, damn near every computing device I have is made by them. It's just astounding how they've let this languish. Very bad.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by jrimbault »

SippinLean wrote: post #277
jrimbault wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why is it that the PowerShell terminal emulator is (graphically) even worse than a tty ? I've worked on ttys more agreeable on the eyes than Windows terminal emulators. Windows is supposed to have better font support than Linux. Also, if someone here has an answer: Why in the design of Windows aren't programs installed or symlinked in the PATH by default? I guess that was a design choice somewhere along the histo…

Fair criticism, but PowerShell is just under the hood, most devs on Windows use cmder or similar.

Adding to that: I use ConEmu.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by VelNZ »

zeveb wrote: post #284
VelNZ wrote: post #229

Wow, what a torrent of negativity on this thread, I didn't see a single positive comment reading through the top level. This is excellent news, I'm chugging along on a 2010 Mac Pro and was very disappointed when the Apple Displays were cancelled last year. They are a staple of the lineup and always look gorgeous compared to what's on the market. I will definitely be buying the new Mac Pro and 2 displays to go with it…

> There is absolutely no way I will ever use Windows and having to downscale to an iMac or, worse, a MacBook Pro, when my Mac Pro is finally too old was filling me with dread. There is a third choice: Linux. I've been using it as my desktop for 18 years now, and it really is wonderful. With a tiling window manager (no GNOME, no KDE, just X11) the UI gets out of my way and lets me work. Yeah, I do kinda sorta wish tha…

Yep, that's where I'd go if forced to. I've seen some pretty nice screenshots from the newest window managers of late. I value design and ease of use quite a bit though and the number of complaints about things not working or tools not being as good (think Adobe CS) on Linux puts me off.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by simonh »

ericcholis wrote: post #91

Working in a small-ish company, my job responsibilities are relatively fluid, with major shifts coming every few years. First, it was a shift away from Windows to Mac to develop PHP. Recently, I've off-loaded most of my graphic design work, which means I'm less reliant on the Adobe Creative Suite. So, my next shift might just be to Fedora or Ubuntu. Not that I'm not satisfied with Mac OS or Apple hardware. But, they…

Unless you're actually allergic to 5K displays, probably the high end iMac. Yes they're expensive, but those industry-leading profit margins and high ASPs have to come from somewhere.

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Post by mikestew »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I'd be buying the new Macbook Pro in a month.

I know one is discouraged from questioning whether a commenter read the article, but I'll point out that Gruber is on about the Mac Pro, which is a desktop machine. I'll doubt the new one will have "longer battery life".

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

Eun wrote: post #222
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

> Window management in OSX is horrible.

What is so horrible about it ? I have the exact same reaction every time I have to use Microsoft Windows. Window management is one of the strongpoints of MacOS.

> A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

I've never encountered this problem on both AFP and SMB shares.

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Post by Keyframe »

taude wrote: post #173
buserror wrote: post #13

Gave up on the mac pro years ago. I replaced my unkillable 2008 Mac pro with a lovely Fractal Design R5 case, a stonking 5930k overclocked at 4.5Gz on a 'posh' ASUS Mobo with 64GB of DDR. It's a 'hackintosh', sure enough, but it's fantastic. First time in 30 years I don't own a mac, that's telling. Their fault, too.

I ran a Hackintosh for about 1.5 years. I just recently went back to Windows 10 after the integrated Linux sub-system came out with the update. Most of the software/tools I use run in both OS X and Windows, so it wasn't a huge deal breaker for me. One thing I didn't like about the Hackintosh was maintaining it during updates, having to wait for the right NVidia web drivers, and then remembering how to update all the…

Well, you don't have to wait for the right Nvidia drivers anymore since they've stopped releasing them. 980 GTX Ti is as far as it can go now.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by api »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I'm really, really surprised you said thinner/lighter. I have a few years old MacBook Pro and it's already plenty thin and light for a "Pro" laptop.

A lot of the other things you list are in direct conflict with thinner/lighter, and Apple's obsession with thinness is probably why you don't have them.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by simonbarker87 »

eeeeeeeeeeeee wrote: post #179
simonbarker87 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't take that too literally, firstly those are Gruber's words and secondly, there isn't anything stopping you putting the Mac Pro on the floor so long as the cables reach.

Apple themselves admitted as much. They focused too much on making something beautiful and small. Neither of those things matter to a pro, especially for a desktop. And not only that, even Apple with its vast resources cannot keep the machine up to date because the components are so tied to the case design.

A nicely designed item is unrelated to where it should be placed. The OP was specifically saying that Apple lost the Pro market because the unit "demanded" to be put on the desk which is absurd since the Mac Pro can be placed anywhere that the cables allow it to.
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