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Nylas Mail is now free

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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by nebulous1 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #211
wodenokoto wrote: post #198

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Yes they do. There is a link to the download/purchase page in the header of the blog. And even if this was impossible, they could make their name in the body of the blog post a link to their website.

Right. I think it's limited to one external link (could be wrong). Makes sense they'd include the download link over the homepage link no?

You are correct: https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/231510068-External...

Don't use medium for this purpose then, would be my answer. I also had an issue getting to the homepage. Obviously I managed to get there, but I almost didn't bother.

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Post by mo17i »

macinjosh wrote: post #105
artursapek wrote: post #75

I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I'm taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?

I had the exact same experience. I see this sort of issue commonly. Surprising companies don't just link you back to their homepage when they promote their product with a blog. Seems like an obvious thing to do.

I've just experienced this issue today with Instagram, and I entered their support page, and there was nowhere to get to the homepage.

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Post by timdorr »

vurpo wrote: post #274
jpalomaki wrote: post #225

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"When you get a message that has a picture in it, you see the picture automatically. " https://support.google.com/mail/answer/145919?co=GENIE.Platf...

Gmail automatically downloads and caches images, and loads them from their server instead of from the original remote server, when you read the email.

That only obfuscates the reader's IP. Gmail respects Cache-Control headers, so it will not cache the image if you tell it not to.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by dyu- »

yoasif_ wrote: post #289
nopzor wrote: post #266

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It's a lot harder to monetize free->paid if you don't even know who your free users are. Requiring the creation of a Nylas ID for the free tier addresses this. Your ecommerce example doesn't fit the situation here; the ecommerce business wants the order $$ at the expense of the account, and their UX reflects that.

I remember a few years back after I got my first decent Android phone looking at "top 10" lists of the best apps out there. One of those apps was Lumosity, and I installed it. The first step was setting up an account. I promptly uninstalled the app, and to this day, I have no idea whether it is any good. It felt odd to me that for a game with no multiplayer component would require me to sign up for an account, and I'…

A non-main/throwaway mail for that purpose would be a good one for you to have so you can test without giving away anything.

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Post by ksec »

e0m wrote: post #106
yoasif_ wrote: post #39

Is there a build available which doesn't require users to sign up for a Nylas ID? The support page states that "If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID." Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can "make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book", it doesn't feel li…

Nylas Mail Basic does NOT store your mail data in the cloud. It still uses a cloud service for some features (like read receipts), but all the data is local on your disk and auth credentials stored in your native OS keychain. Nylas Pro currently syncs in the cloud to enable some of the pro features not currently offered in Nylas Mail Basic and to provide a much easier to use modern API wrapper around mail data. The c…

OK, You will Need to Point this out in BIG BOLD 16 Fonts somewhere. Because I have skim read through Nylas multiple times and wherever it said it requires Nylas Cloud i just bypass it right away, thinking I have to store all my Keys and Important Data in yet another third party Cloud.

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Post by biokoda »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #246
biokoda wrote: post #52

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GTK still looks that bad? That is absolutely horrendous.

No, GTK3 looks like this[1] these days[2], these screenshots use an ancient version. [1] - http://i.imgur.com/0eLhrAM.png [2] - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/chergert/gnome-builder-web...

Thanks

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by frik »

treehau5 wrote: post #221
frik wrote: post #131

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Neither MS Outlook nor GMail use a tracking pixel. Such pixel are only used by newsletter or shaddy spam senders.

Tracking pixels are ubiquitous, and used in virtually almost every situation where you want to know if a person opened your email, which equates to virtually all ecommerce in my experience.

As you said, in newsletter/spam business. But common mail apps don't do that - there is already a defacto standard for that. It's clear that Nylas business is around tracking and collecting data. It's like Win10, the user is the product and everything gets collected.

Good that Outlook and other mail apps blocks third party pictures by default.

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