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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by tbrock »

dmcginty wrote: post #274
athenot wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Atlassian is indeed acquiring Trello to fit it in with the rest of their suite. This is probably going to be done to the detriment of the other use cases. On the bright side, this might pave the way for a new product in this space, or some open-source tools which replicate the same basic funtionality.

Open source alternatives are already out there. Wekan is one of the more popular ones. I'm not sure if it has all of the features of Trello as I haven't used Trello extensively. https://github.com/wekan/wekan

They already have a closed source alternative built into JIRA.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by mhp »

SonOfLilit wrote: post #254

Open letter to Atlassian: Trello are an amazing team and an amazing product, and what makes the product so amazing is how domain-agnostic it is. They refuse at all costs to add any feature that helps use Trello in one specific way over others (e.g. lists = stages in task lifetime, cards = tasks; lists = assigned people, cards = tasks; lists = dates, cards = events, ...), and that made Trello equally useful as a Kanba…

Thank you for the kind words.

I promise you Atlassian understands why Trello is so successful. You described Trello's core strength perfectly - and this one of the reasons they are committed to keeping it as a standalone service.

(disclaimer: I'm the CEO of Trello)

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by compuguy »

lolptdr wrote: post #57
bjacobel wrote: post #51

Some of Atlassian's previous acquisitions have turned into products mostly shunned by the developer community (Hipchat, Bitbucket) - I hope they've learned what went wrong since then, but my gut says Atlassian isn't very good at integrating external teams and supporting their products. Hopefully Trello won't go down the same path.

Why are Hipchat or Bitbucket shunned? Hipchat is a slimmer version of Slack but pretty much does the same things. Bitbucket is just a github with a Atlassian skin.

Hipchat's on premise version doesn't work in an air gapped network with certain needed features (video chat is one). You do not want to know how much they ask per year for the on premise version (for greater than 10 users).

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by omouse »

nilkn wrote: post #202
throwaway5752 wrote: post #104

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Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

My experience with Jira is that it depends very much on the managers and executive team who set it up and create the precedents on how to use it. Jira is so customizable and has so many features that it can be made into a sort of bureaucratic prison that's actively counter-productive for everyone except higher-level managers who just use it to generate countless reports. In the worst case, Jira can be used to institu…

JIRA is so customizable that it brings out the personality of a micro-manager, even in people who are usually not micro-managers. It's interesting to see how a tool used every day can shape thinking and behaviour patterns.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

sanguy wrote: post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

I spent quite a few hours trying to set up Atlassian's dashboard called Atlasboard, it was pretty awful. It relies on git submodules for extensibility. All of the plugins I tried were horrible, both 3rd party ones and the 1st party Atlassian ones.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by iagooar »

arielm wrote: post #277
SonOfLilit wrote: post #254

Open letter to Atlassian: Trello are an amazing team and an amazing product, and what makes the product so amazing is how domain-agnostic it is. They refuse at all costs to add any feature that helps use Trello in one specific way over others (e.g. lists = stages in task lifetime, cards = tasks; lists = assigned people, cards = tasks; lists = dates, cards = events, ...), and that made Trello equally useful as a Kanba…

I completely agree with the sentiment, but my gut says this acquisition isn't about Trello becoming a part of Atlassian but rather Atlassian trying to venture away from their set of dev tools. Why, you ask? As a recently public company Atlassian knows it'll need to grow beyond developers if they want to continue growing at a healthy rate, and Trello offers that exactly. I believe that's why they paid such a hefty pri…

> As a recently public company Atlassian knows it'll need to grow beyond developers

Why is that? Why does a company that is good at something NEED to expand beyond their area of expertise? Is is just me who sees this as American Capitalism™? Wouldn't it be better to try to make their products excellent and attract the many developers who are not using their suite? Why the always constant push to grow at any cost?

I'm saying this as someone who has been using Atlassian products for a while. They seem to focus on JIRA and Confluence only, and letting all the other products be 2nd or even 3rd class citizens. Why expand if you cannot keep the software that you already own up to date?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by compuguy »

BjoernKW wrote: post #257
k__ wrote: post #50

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Right, but they don't have a good reputation to start with. Somehow the only good things I heared about them came from people who made their money by building stuff they wanted to sell on the Atlassian platform. People less biased always choose alternatives. I can't say much about them myself. I only used Bitbucket, because of the free private repos. Their UIs are pretty mediocre, but I use it via Git cli, so it does…

As far as ticket / issue tracking systems and wikis go their products are quite decent. JIRA has its quirks but it's very flexible and customisable. Its UX is also quite ok for such a complex piece of software. Keep in mind they're competing with stuff like SharePoint and downright UX atrocities such as HP ALM. Confluence is among the best enterprise wikis targeting end users (i.e. users not familiar with Markdown),…

HP ALM is awful. The biggest issue is that you needed to install it on the client machine to be used as a plugin. I would rather have Atlassian products than HP ALM and Clearcase!

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by newobj »

SonOfLilit wrote: post #254

Open letter to Atlassian: Trello are an amazing team and an amazing product, and what makes the product so amazing is how domain-agnostic it is. They refuse at all costs to add any feature that helps use Trello in one specific way over others (e.g. lists = stages in task lifetime, cards = tasks; lists = assigned people, cards = tasks; lists = dates, cards = events, ...), and that made Trello equally useful as a Kanba…

Please stop using this narcissistic and overwrought "open letter" rhetorical device. It has none of the intended pith. All you had to do was write "I hope Atlassian keeps Trello general." instead of "Keep Trello general. Please."

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by edraferi »

chinhodado wrote: post #283
Gelob wrote: post #248

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Thats about all Atlassian is good at. HipChat has become an abomination of a client across Windows and Mac. Every new release is about fixing functionality they broke with the previous release and even then it still isn't fixed. Logging in from multiple places has always been terrible. I'll be logged in on Mac and available but randomly get emails as if I'm offline. I'll be online on my phone and get e-mails. I wan't…

And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

Really? I'm pretty happy with it. Definitely better than Github desktop, and more full featured than the light git extensions you find in most editors.

What Git GUI do you prefer?

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