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Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by solublebear »

leesalminen wrote: post #194
dingaling wrote: post #159

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> Top to bottom, it's a very nice UX. It's why i love Slack. I wouldn't even credit them with that. 20 minutes ago I yet again pressed up-arrow to scroll up one line to see a message off the top of the page and yet again it dropped me into an editing prompt for my last message. What? And then there's the click-click-click of jumping between channels to see the latest messages, instead of having some form of summary.…

I've long thought that an aggregated screen holding all unread message (with a button to expand +/- 5 lines) was sorely missing from Slack.

Sounds like an email inbox

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by drumdance »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #85
fizzbatter wrote: post #45

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Hate? Everyone i know loves slack. I love slack. I've used it for my last two companies for (~many) years now. That doesn't make it innovative though, imo. I can't think of a single feature they've done that is innovative. Attaching a file to a message?. Searching history? These aren't new or special in any way shape or form. What slack did far more than UI, was UX. Top to bottom, it's a very nice UX. It's why i love…

>What slack did far more than UI, was UX. Top to bottom, it's a very nice UX. It's why i love Slack. I don't think they even do that well, it's a complete nightmare finding anything on slack beyond the last 24 hours. What Slack did well was branding and marketing.

I personally prefer Flowdock's UI, but they're slipping behind.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by ue_ »

Latty wrote: post #142
kzisme wrote: post #101

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I'm sure OP was using bots as an example - IRC bouncers exist ,and if that's too technical for you then there are multiple other solutions.

Sure, and none of those solutions are as good as 'scroll up' after clicking five buttons to make a slack team. By quite a way.

With a bouncer you literally just scroll up.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by Latty »

exstudent2 wrote: post #256
Latty wrote: post #251

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I've seen both. The "draconian moderation" is also the reason for their success.

That's highly debatable. I use it despite the moderation. Half the questions I get answers for are "closed, off topic".

If it wasn't for the moderation, it'd be a swamp of terrible just like the forums of old.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by loceng »

loceng wrote: post #22
fairpx wrote: post #4

When Steve Jobs "Welcomed IBM" with a full page ad, it was fun. It fit the vibe of who he was and the slightly rebellious marketing campaigns Apple was running. Slack's "Welcome Microsoft" letter felt weird. It felt disconnected from the company and product many of us love and use every day. Might have been stronger to silently add a feature to Slack that lets you communicate with Microsoft Team's members.

It definitely felt polar opposite to the tone of the wonderful animated animal character ad. Even visually the tone was too stark.

They should really do another full-page ad saying they fucked up and that they thought they were being clever and their ego got the best of them. Make it visually appealing, full of animals ... that'd make me feel good about Slack again, like they're grownups and can admit mistakes.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by rudolf0 »

jhgg wrote: post #247
rudolf0 wrote: post #195

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I think Discord is on a path to be a suitable replacement for IRC, Slack, and Skype. They still need some polishing, but once they fix some bugs and add good support for history and searching, I think it'll be fantastic.

What bugs ail you friend? Looking to see where and if they are on our bug tracker.

I was actually just parroting claims of message arrival time/sync inconsistencies in this thread. I don't use the app too much, in part because nearly everyone I know uses Skype instead of Discord, but I've never personally experienced a bug.

My personal biggest gripe is the lack of easy searching. I rely on it a lot, and Skype usually does an okay job at it (even though it can often be slow and tends to lag the UI).

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Post by oddvar »

it33 wrote: post #259
8_hours_ago wrote: post #239

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Microsoft Team doesn't currently have a self-hosted option. I hope it's in the pipeline because my company can't use an offsite IM service. It would be nice if Microsoft added support and then Slack followed. Competition is good!

Mattermost is an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative: https://www.mattermost.org/what-slack-might-learn-from-its-o...

There is also Matrix (matrix.org), an open standard for decentralized communications. Our goal is to let all apps talk to each other - including Slack, Mattermost, and Microsoft Teams!

Check it out using any Matrix-enabled app: https://matrix.to/#/#matrix:matrix.org

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by exstudent2 »

Latty wrote: post #294
exstudent2 wrote: post #256

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That's highly debatable. I use it despite the moderation. Half the questions I get answers for are "closed, off topic".

If it wasn't for the moderation, it'd be a swamp of terrible just like the forums of old.

Many people feel otherwise. Anyway it's way off topic to the op.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by mdonahoe »

JamesBarney wrote: post #252
Latty wrote: post #78

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It sounds a lot like all the people that bash StackOverflow - "It's just posts and a voting system, I could write that in a week!", ignoring all the complexity and design behind it, operating at scale and cultivating the environment. If people need something to be 'amazing' not to put it down, and 'amazing' doesn't include doing the right things to be highly successful... If no one else did it, was it really so obvio…

Stack overflow benefits from tremendous network effects while Slack does not.

Slack has some limited network effects with guest access, but they should really make inter-company collaboration easier.

The lock-in due to loss of history is a bigger reason to stick with slack though once you have it.

Re: Slack may regret its letter to Microsoft

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Post by acedinlowball »

Latty wrote: post #78
fizzbatter wrote: post #45

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Hate? Everyone i know loves slack. I love slack. I've used it for my last two companies for (~many) years now. That doesn't make it innovative though, imo. I can't think of a single feature they've done that is innovative. Attaching a file to a message?. Searching history? These aren't new or special in any way shape or form. What slack did far more than UI, was UX. Top to bottom, it's a very nice UX. It's why i love…

It sounds a lot like all the people that bash StackOverflow - "It's just posts and a voting system, I could write that in a week!", ignoring all the complexity and design behind it, operating at scale and cultivating the environment. If people need something to be 'amazing' not to put it down, and 'amazing' doesn't include doing the right things to be highly successful... If no one else did it, was it really so obvio…

Sorry, but you're wrong about this. This is my opinion on the matter and I understand that not everyone will agree with me.
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