If you don't have the time to eat properly, the best choice is not to eat.
Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
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Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need This is the problem. That concept is completely foreign to a lot of people (me included). The combination of my body's needs and the way I was raised lead me to view each meal as an opportunity to be enjoyed, never a chore. Something I observed in the weightlifting community: there are people who need to worry about dieting (cutting) and people who worry about eati…
Think of something you have to do every day that you don't like to do. Like flossing maybe? Some people really enjoy flossing. Some people don't. If there were a device I could put in my mouth and in 30 seconds everything were flossed, I would totally do that. But some people would think, man how can you do that and take all the enjoyment out of flossing? Sometimes when I'm working, I run to the fridge, grab whatever…
Is it healthier? Apparently it's making people sick.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#293Not putting solid food into your system for long periods of time (months, years) will destroy your ability to digest solid food when you start refeeding. I've seen people in eating disorder facilities who have lived on diets of liquid food (historically Ensure, basically the same thing) who have not defecated for months, and when they start eating again suffer for weeks and weeks from horrendous constipation, often r…
I don't advocate for or against liquid diets necessarily - and I realize this is overtly a throwaway account - but this sounds pretty pseudo-sciency to me, anecdote notwithstanding. At bare minimum, include some citation here.
You have it exactly backwards.
Anyone suggesting Soylent is safe with arguments like "glucose is glucose" and "it has the right macronutrient ratios" is spouting pseudo-science.
If you have insufficient evidence that something is safe and a strong anecdote suggesting otherwise the logical option is to abstain.
Attempting to bring science into the decision making process when the science has not been done is pseudo-science!
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eating a meal takes a lot of time. You've got to prepare it, clean up afterwards, and take your mind off of whatever you are doing. Or you have to order it, and then still usually there's some cleanup and interaction. The liquid Soylent is about as disruptive as drinking water. That's really useful to me when I'm sucked into a programming challenge or research task. Sometimes I'll go 3-4 days doing nothing but work a…
At that effort level I was hoping you're working on curing a disease or at least something more important than the cloud. :-/
I'm honored that you dug into it.
I'm working on decentralization, which I think is a very socially important goal. The cloud is not my ultimate objective, but it's one of the very few short term use cases I see where a decentralized system seems to have the potential to utterly dominate a centralized one.
Decentralized tech is very new. It's very hopium, and it's very poorly understood, both by zealots and by non-believers. I think that decentralization is going to change a lot of things in fundamental ways, and I think I can move the field forward faster by building a tangible, provably working, provably superior use case for decentralized tech.
Cloud storage is not as glamorous as starting a new world order, but the most important engineering is often the most mundane. People probably felt similarly about the Internet back before the world wide web was invented.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need This is the problem. That concept is completely foreign to a lot of people (me included). The combination of my body's needs and the way I was raised lead me to view each meal as an opportunity to be enjoyed, never a chore. Something I observed in the weightlifting community: there are people who need to worry about dieting (cutting) and people who worry about eati…
I have two young kids and a startup. The idea that I should view each meal as an opportunity to be enjoyed is honestly a pipe dream right now. I enjoy as many of my meals as I can with my family. But when the kids are sick or I'm running behind and have a meeting, I grab a soylent and I feel like it's a lot healthier than picking up sugary junk or other alternatives.
Soylent has nine grams of sugar per serving. It is sugary junk.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#296Soylent made such a big deal of being a "tech company", and boasted about their overdesigned web infrastructure for a business that did two transactions a minute. What they didn't have is advanced technology on the production side. They write about "sending samples out" to external labs. It's not like they had an automated lab constantly sampling their production line and posting the results to the web. There are pro…
One of the biggest flaws of the tech industry is the belief that being a tech expert is enough to disrupt other industries in which they don't have any expertise. Sometimes they get lucky and it works despite something like Uber's or Airbnb's total ignorance of the law. Sometimes it fails like with numerous cryptocurrency companies relearning why the finance industry has so many dang regulations. Seems like Soylent i…
There really must be a law for everything? That's a slave mentality right there.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need This is the problem. That concept is completely foreign to a lot of people (me included). The combination of my body's needs and the way I was raised lead me to view each meal as an opportunity to be enjoyed, never a chore. Something I observed in the weightlifting community: there are people who need to worry about dieting (cutting) and people who worry about eati…
Eating a meal takes a lot of time. You've got to prepare it, clean up afterwards, and take your mind off of whatever you are doing. Or you have to order it, and then still usually there's some cleanup and interaction. The liquid Soylent is about as disruptive as drinking water. That's really useful to me when I'm sucked into a programming challenge or research task. Sometimes I'll go 3-4 days doing nothing but work a…
> Sometimes I'll go 3-4 days doing nothing but work and sleep.
That sounds extremely unhealthy from both a physical and a mental standpoint.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe checkout http://diy.soylent.com , some guy made a webapp for you to come up with custom soylent recipes. I made a variant based on Keto chow and it's pretty good.
Thanks for the link -- I remember spending a good 10-15 minutes before giving up on the DIY suggestions. There were a few recipes that piqued my interest, but most seemed like a chemical sludge. And since I don't live off soylent, I figured it was too much effort to invest the time/energy in a drink that I consume maybe once a week.
Check out superbodyfuel.com - they make several formulas of Soylent-style recipes, and cover different macros and allergen avoidance.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#299Halt production? It seems these soylent formulations are versioned. So can't they revert back to an older version till they fix the issue? Or its not as simple as this?
Is it the version or the process? This isn't software, you have a lot of mechanisms & parties in play. The biggest thing at risk here is reputation. Let me draw a comparison: how much worse would it have been for Samsung to just halt production of the Galaxy S7 then to race forward and produce a new, still-exploding version?
>how much worse would it have been for Samsung to just halt production of the Galaxy S7 then to race forward and produce a new, still-exploding version?
Isn't that exactly what happened and it was a huge disaster.
Re: Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getting sick
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Soylent is for meals you don't care about but need This is the problem. That concept is completely foreign to a lot of people (me included). The combination of my body's needs and the way I was raised lead me to view each meal as an opportunity to be enjoyed, never a chore. Something I observed in the weightlifting community: there are people who need to worry about dieting (cutting) and people who worry about eati…
Don't you ever have things to do? I like a great meal a lot, but if that was the three top events each day, I'd consider it an empty life.
You are clearly not French or have you lived there. A great meal should absolutely be one of the highlights of a day. Food can be (and should be) the catalyst of great conversations, great ideas or even meditative self-reflection.
Soylent seems to me to be a hipster Ultra Slim Fast and consumed for the exact same reasons legions of working women have that stuff in office refrigerators.
I can respect that people have different priorities than a great meal each day, but I can also pity them.