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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by neals »

stonemetal wrote: post #285
neals wrote: post #208

I don't like Google because they're gonna use my data against me. I don't like Apple because it's a walled garden and millions other reasons. I don't like Samsung because they bloat Android. I don't like Huawei because I don't trust the Chinese government to not do stuff to it. I don't like LG and HTC because the smartphone market is slipping away from them. Am I just getting old?

If you don't like LG and HTC simply because of popularity metrics then perhaps you are getting too young rather than too old.

Nah, I'm old enough to see that if their mobile division tanks, I'm not going to get updates.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by nextos »

adamweld wrote: post #29
mikestew wrote: post #13

And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

For me perfection is not AOSP, but https://copperhead.co/android/.

Sadly, they only support Nexus (now Pixel devices), and this new iteration is very expensive.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by acchow »

rayiner wrote: post #24
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #14

> Burke says the company will eventually be able to ship its own custom “silicon,” a buzzword for customized processors that make devices work better. Silicon is not a buzzword. It is the element with which the processors are built. Perhaps it's colloquial or jargonistic to refer to processors as silicon, but it's not a buzzword.

It's synecdoche.

I didn't realize that's what synecdoche meant.

Adds some depth to the title of the movie "Synecdoche, New York"

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by mmanfrin »

"Their debut signals Google’s push into the $400 billion smartphone hardware business and shows that the company is willing to risk alienating partners like Samsung Electronics Co. and LG Electronics Inc. that sell Android-based phones."

You mean not including the time they bought Motorola?

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Post by lucaspiller »

mattbessey wrote: post #236
djhworld wrote: post #210

The price makes me a bit sad tbh One of the best things about the Nexus range was they offered the Google vision of android at a reasonable price. The Nexus 4, 5 and 6 were affordable. I purchased my Nexus 5 for a shade below £300 when it came out, which I thought was excellent value for money in comparison to how much I had paid for a Samsung previously. This Pixel line seems to have abandoned that ideal to compete…

To be fair, a good portion of that (£100?) is likely to be from the £ losing value against the $

It's $649 (£509) for the base model in the US, so if you exclude VAT it's actually cheaper in the UK.

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Post by duaneb »

andrewpi wrote: post #278
fleetfox wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you bring up screen resolution? Both phones have 400+ ppi screens. You want more? Why?

VR headsets greatly benefit from a higher resolution. Even the 2K display on the late model Samsung phones produce low resolution when paired with a Gear VR. Supposedly this won't be resolved until 8k or even 16k mobile displays.

Why would you use a phone for vr? Seems hugely expensive to upgrade the screen for the sake of a niche hobby. Most people wouldn't even use it.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by fredgrott »

mikestew wrote: post #13

And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

and yet Samsung is out-selling Apple..talk about ignoring facts..

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Post by nextos »

saiko-chriskun wrote: post #53
buro9 wrote: post #36

So far, aside from the camera (apparently excellent), everything I've heard about why the Pixel is so great comes down to software. So far, of everything software that people have enthused about with the Pixel... none of that software shines if you only have Google Apps accounts. Aside from the camera, why would anyone with a Google Apps account buy this? (I'm referring to the Allo AI assistent, etc which only has li…

I run copperhead and don't even have google anything on my android :P

Sadly getting onto copperhead now is gonna be expensive...

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Post by livingparadox »

FussyZeus wrote: post #270
adamweld wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

> Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable. This is the go-to line for every Android fan. How many devices out there run stock Android? Is it possible to buy a device with stock Android? How much comp-sci experience are you going to need to ma…

I use the Nexus, which runs stock android by default. This new pixel phone will probably also do so, being a direct (ish) google phone. I think its because if the cruft 3rd party OEMs have been adding that google has been making these phones.

So, yes, you can buy a device with stock android. It just has to be a google phone, not a 3rd party for the most part.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by mmanfrin »

joezydeco wrote: post #126

“Google is now the seller of record of this phone,” And who is the servicer of broken phones? Is there a warranty? Can I get a customer service agent on a real voice line? Given Google's track record of hardware they could have answers for all of this and I still wouldn't own one.

  And who is the servicer of broken phones? Is there a 
  warranty? Can I get a customer service agent on a real 
  voice line?
This was one of the things they announced; Fire-phone-like support tools and access.
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