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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by labster » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:42 PM UTC

yock wrote: post #240

acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

The problem with cameras is that the limits are set by physics. The bigger your lens, the better the resolution. If only Apple could figure out a way to miniaturize visible light.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by hmate9 » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

I won't be buying the new iPhone but I thinks removing the headphone jack seems like an extremely small problem.

The main issue seems to be that you now can't charge and listen to music at the same time. How often do you actually do that? In the past 5 years I have probably done that once.

For those of you who do think it is an inconvenience, I bet there will be a product on the market in 2 weeks that eliminates this problem.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by petra » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:43 PM UTC

thebaer wrote: post #202

kirykl wrote: post #140

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One of Apple's core tenents is 'to hell with legacy' Lightning headphones are a stop gap. The future is wireless.

I might be convinced of that when they improve the battery technology. No company on the planet except for Apple can say "wireless is the future" and charge $159 for buds that last 5 hours.

The battery in my jaws neckband earphones should last 13 hours.

Btw a neckband should have been the ideal form factor for this - comfortable, great battery life, doesn't require expensive tech like earpods , hard to lose, buttons.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by a_sriram » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

I wonder why they removed the 3d touch? edit: I just saw the video...its still there. Looks like it is a default feature now. My bad.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by songgao » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

2.4Ghz is super congested. 802.11g is. Bluetooth is. Even your microwave is on 2.4GHz. If everybody starts to use Bluetooth headphones all the time, I fear it's gonna make it totally unusable.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by dmix » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

emptyfile wrote: post #273

tdy721 wrote: post #215

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I never use a case for my phones. Honestly, I kinda like the way phones "wear down". It's mine, and I scratched it up a bit, no problem.

This, IMHO phones are not supposed to be jewelry.

I break my screen far too often not to use a case with a raised edge, so it can't survive a fall. I'm too clumsy to not have one. Nothing to do with jewelry.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Coincoin » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

yock wrote: post #240

acomjean wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

I had a 20$ water resistant portable tape player in the 90s with many more holes, buttons and mechanical parts than the iPhone and I could dunk it in water no trouble.

Edit: More like in the 80s.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by cozzyd » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

IMcD23 wrote: post #255

cozzyd wrote: post #164

Well, at least the lack of a headphone jack might prevent some people from using a selfie stick.

Selfie sticks work over Bluetooth now! No need for a headphone jack. The $12 one my girlfriend bought is Bluetooth.

What, so now you have to charge the selfie stick? How convenient...

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by heartbreak » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

jjawssd wrote: post #181

kirykl wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of Apple's core tenents is 'to hell with legacy' Lightning headphones are a stop gap. The future is wireless.

That would make sense if wired wasn't far superior to wireless from a reliability and throughput standpoint

Were you given early access to Apple's "wireless" AirBuds?

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by nicky0 » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

wayfarer2s wrote: post #44

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Honestly I'm glad they're moving towards wireless. I replace way more headphones than I care to admit just from them wearing out with normal use. It's usually just the wire itself that is worn out, the earpieces are almost always in good condition. The only thing I worry about is losing the AirPods, but they seem like a step in the right direction.

The AirPods do look incredibly easy to lose.

Perhaps Apple could sell some kind of wire to attach to the AirPods to keep them safe. The other end of the safety wire could plug into the phone's lightning port, for extra safety.