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Re: Cisco to lay off about 14,000 employees

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Post by mercer » Fri, Aug 19, 2016, 9:50 AM UTC

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #280

freyr wrote: post #104

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> Fridays a lot of people work from home. A lot of my coworkers work from home on Fridays too. Which means a three-day weekend / nothing to show for their time on Monday.

I never understand the animosity shown towards people who choose to work from home. Nothing personal, but I see attitudes like yours in a few of my scoffing coworkers as well. Do you really know what your teammates are accomplishing? Or how they are spending their workday? Do you go to their homes and peer inside the window? Or is it just some sense of self righteousness you feel by being a good employee who wouldn't…

My experience is similar to freyr's. I've had Friday-from-home periods where usually I'd end up not doing much. Sometimes this was my fault; it's just too easy to see it as an early start tothe weekend. But at other times it was because people/code/decisions I needed were not made because employees in the office also seemed to have much lower output on Fridays.

And my experience with coworkers is no different. I actually checked commit histories at some point to confirm that indeed most of those who worked from home on Fridays didn't produce any significant output. The sneakier ones would commit stuff, but clearly 'little stuff' that I sometimes suspected they had ready on a Thursday specifically to show something on a Friday.

Of course, you're completely correct that this doesn't mean that this is always the case. But if I were an employer, based on my experiences, I'd be hesitant to allow people to work from home on Fridays. Not in general, but specifically only on Fridays.

Re: Cisco to lay off about 14,000 employees

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Post by kubuqi » Sat, Aug 20, 2016, 12:31 PM UTC

signa11 wrote: post #50

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You may not. But large enterprises that pay billions a year for networking gear, who can save a billion by buying whitebox, and still get that Cisco feel that they have spent years training and acquiring expertise will and already are. It may not be IOS. But Cisco will come out with something that feels and operates like IOS that runs on x86. Juniper has already ported it's JUNOS to run on x86. Between whitebox and S…

> Juniper has already ported it's JUNOS to run on x86. huh :) i was/am under the impression that with junos, juniper started with freebsd as the core, and then added lot's of stuff to it, specifically in control-plane and a bunch of kernel extensions as well. if that is true, they were already x86 compatible... with cisco things are very different. i don't think ios ever ran on a bare-metal x86. this is not for the l…

Not much difference I'm afraid. IOS-XE is essentially the product of porting the classic IOS and runs it as a controlling process that sits top of linux, and with dedicated forwarding path.

If you look up for IOU, which stands for IOs over Unix, it has been around for quit a long time.

Re: Cisco to lay off about 14,000 employees

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Post by kubuqi » Sat, Aug 20, 2016, 12:34 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #149

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hardware way cheaper to do in china

So is software. What does Cisco actually expect its business to be in 5 years or 10 years? It's the next Yahoo.

Not really cheap for software... I worked for Cisco in Shanghai and I recall we were more expensive than our Ottawa friends.

Re: Cisco to lay off about 14,000 employees

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Post by freyr » Tue, Aug 30, 2016, 10:51 PM UTC

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #280

freyr wrote: post #104

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> Fridays a lot of people work from home. A lot of my coworkers work from home on Fridays too. Which means a three-day weekend / nothing to show for their time on Monday.

I never understand the animosity shown towards people who choose to work from home. Nothing personal, but I see attitudes like yours in a few of my scoffing coworkers as well. Do you really know what your teammates are accomplishing? Or how they are spending their workday? Do you go to their homes and peer inside the window? Or is it just some sense of self righteousness you feel by being a good employee who wouldn't…

> Or is it just some sense of self righteousness you feel by being a good employee who wouldn't ever choose to work from home like those other lazy bums.

Wow, I must have touched a nerve. Actually, I semi-regularly work from home. My issue is with the people in my organization who take advantage of working from home, treat it like a three-day weekend, and will likely cause the work-from-home privilege to be revoked.