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Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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What's up with all the criticism. Jealous much?

While browsing this I found it to be inspiring and beautiful. Way better than anything some companies that call themselves "design" put out for BIG $$$.

Screw all the negative energy here. Go man, go. You are the real deal among all the fake critics-designers.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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> By which I mean to say, using a Mac or an iPhone is at least 50% about using a Mac or an iPhone, and maybe 50% about doing whatever it is you are trying to do. Could you elaborate on this? I don't feel that way at all when using any modern OS/device, but maybe I just haven't thought about it in the same way.

Apple's focus on minimalist aesthetics have come at the cost of discoverability. Interactions are concealed by gestural input and incomprehensible icons without text labels. This issue is getting worse rather than better, e.g. force touch on the new Macbooks. Using Apple devices requires a great deal of memorisation. For power users this is a relatively minor burden, but it is a serious issue for inexperienced users,…

The OS X UX has demonstrably more discoverability than any other contemporary OS, and certainly much less "mystery meat" than Windows.

The shortcuts are consistent across all Mac apps, are discoverable (and completely modifiable) from System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts, or from Help -> Search in any app.

Trackpad and mouse gestures are shown, with videos in fact, in System -> Trackpad and System -> Mouse.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

#295

What's up with all the criticism. Jealous much? While browsing this I found it to be inspiring and beautiful. Way better than anything some companies that call themselves "design" put out for BIG $$$. Screw all the negative energy here. Go man, go. You are the real deal among all the fake critics-designers.

The website outright neglects the keyboard. That alone sugests to me that this is not a UI concept that targets desktops or laptops. It's still in the realm of touch devices.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

#296

The biggest thing I find lacking in desktop UI is the ability to save and switch between states. We need the idea of project 'sessions' where I can open up the software I need to use, pull up the files I need, set my favorite folders, etc and then hit 'save' and be able to restore back to that setup at the click of a button. Right now, switching between projects means setting all that up every single time.

I believe KDE has had support for sessions like that where it saves all your open applications, documents, folders and desktop widgets since at least KDE 4. You can switch between those sessions using the cashew thingy.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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This is a long response, but I think it might be useful to read. There are a lot of attempts to redesign the desktop or do some clever thing to increase productivity but all of them tend to forget the fundamentals of interacting with the computer. The forget why what we have is successful and seem unclear as to what they are trying to move towards as an improvement. That probably seems like a bold statement so lets l…

polite spelling correction: it's "all manner of things", not "all manor of things".

Ack.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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Apple's focus on minimalist aesthetics have come at the cost of discoverability. Interactions are concealed by gestural input and incomprehensible icons without text labels. This issue is getting worse rather than better, e.g. force touch on the new Macbooks. Using Apple devices requires a great deal of memorisation. For power users this is a relatively minor burden, but it is a serious issue for inexperienced users,…

It drives me mad when people talk about touch interfaces as being "intuitive". Once you get past "touch icon to activate" and "touch and drag to scroll", gestures aren't intuitive, they're a secret handshake.

I agre with you and I constantly get hammered for having this same opinion: gestures are inscrutable, difficult to discover, hard to memorise, and just generally an off-putting deviation from the ”touch/click items/icons/runes to do things” metaphor.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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It's amazing how buried some of these are. Nothing tops print screen for me - Cmd + shift + 3 for the whole screen or Cmd + shift + 4 for the selection option...

My absolute favorite is cmd + shift + 3 - release - space to take a shot of a single window. Maybe it's the release part between 3 buttons and pressing space, but that shortcut is always wired to use for me.

I didn't knew this one, it's awesome, but it's with 4 instead of 3 :)
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