Is it worth learning Swift? (eg. on Linux)
Yeah it's a nice and more importantly a safe language. I am just worried about breaking changes.
Swift is Open Source
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
In all seriousness, I'm not sure they could switch it to GPLv3. I think that Apple's firmware signing might run afoul of the anti-tivoization clause and prevent them from shipping Swift on Macs. IANAL
Apple seems to think so, which is why all their GNU tools are frozen at their GPLv2 versions.
Apache2 is compatible with GNU GPLv3, though.
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#294Happy to see that my collection of Swift compiler crashes (see https://github.com/practicalswift/swift-compiler-crashes ) has been part of the official Swift repo since September 2014: https://github.com/apple/swift/commit/e5ca8be1a090335d401cd1... :-) A previous HN thread about the swift-compiler-crashes project: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9020206
Wow, congratulations, that's really cool! Speaking of errors, I remember receiving the "Expression was too complex to be solved in reasonable time" error when I was first implementing Catmull-Rom splines for calculating flight paths in a game that I developed. I translated that to, "The math is making the room spin up in here." Definitely the "coolest" error I've hit working with Swift.
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#295It looks like Apple is also releasing an official package manager for swift.[1] I wonder how that will effect Cocoapods. [1] https://swift.org/package-manager
Positively, CocoaPods was filling a gap that should have been done at system level. So we've updated our FAQ about it, https://guides.cocoapods.org/using/faq.html
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#296Just re-stating the obvious, but it's also interesting how GitHub has become the default go-to of repos for everyone, like Google is for - well - googling. Kudos to both GiHub and git, you are simply awesome.
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#298What means "swift is memory safe"? does it use a GC?
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#299With open-sourcing C# and Swift, the era of major closed source programming languages is now officially over.
I think the make up of the web is an indication that that era has been over for a decade or more, and it just took some people/companies a while to realize it.
Proprietary languages, even ones backed by a behemoth like Microsoft or Apple, could never really dominate the most important platform when facing off against open competitors (even open competitors with no real money or power to speak of).
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#300Would anyone use Swift if it wasn't necessary for iOS?
It isn't necessary for iOS. It's still possible to write every part of an app in only Objective-C, as there are no Swift-only APIs. AFAIK, there are no indications of that changing any time soon.
OK, that it's the preferred (by Apple) language/platform for iOS development? I'm guessing you knew what I meant.