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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by porker »

Do have a read of the privacy policy, especially the extra clause for free programs: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229

Will your customers mind if the following data is sent to Microsoft when you're working on-site?

Usage data. We collect information about how you interact with our products and services. This includes information about how you use the products and services, such as the features you use, the web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter. It includes information about the device you use with the services, including IP address, device identifiers, regional and language settings, and information about the network, operating system, browser or other software you use to connect to the services. And it also includes information about the performance of the product or service and any errors or problems you experience with them. In order to create a richer picture of your product usage, we will correlate usage data across other Microsoft services, like Visual Studio Online.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by mattmanser »

frik wrote: post #176
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

Sorry to nitpick but it's nitpick, not nick pick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_louse#Nits

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by RandallBrown »

What's most impressive to me is the number of open source projects used to build it. In my old org at Microsoft it would have taken months to get approval for that many projects. It took us THREE WEEKS to get approval to use Google Mock for C++.

When I left Microsoft about a year ago I had the thought that it would be a cool company to work for again in about 3 years. They really seem to be taking some steps in the right direction.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by ryanmarsh »

krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Some HN'ers may not recall Microsoft's "sleeping giant awakes" moment with the Internet in the 90's. Speaking of tidal waves, hang on to your surfboards, it's going to be big and fast. http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/07/internet-tidal-wave.htm...

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by kgwgk »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #126
pyre wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when Microsoft 'Embraced and Extended' Java, it was only on the Windows platform. It was not cross -platform. The whole point of that methodology wasn't to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java, but to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java on the Microsoft Windows platform.

It was not cross-platform Cross-platform didn't mean much in 1995. Which other platform was there at the time? Apple was dead in the water. Red Hat had just come into existence. Netscape Navigator 1.0 had just shipped in December 1994.

I'm not sure what the reference to Netscape Navigator is supposed to mean, but I find interesting that 2.02 (released in 1996) was available on all these platforms:

> Windows3.1 > Windows95/NT > Macintosh > BSD > Linux > SunOS > Solaris > HP-UX > OSF/1 > Irix > AIX > OS/2 > OpenVMS VAX > OpenVMS Alpha

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by NicoJuicy »

aceperry wrote: post #143
WDCDev wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The push to open source started under Ballmer and has been gaining momentum the past few years. You saw some of the very early open source work debut when Scott Guthrie open sourced ASP.NET MVC 2 in 2010. He (Guthrie) blogged a few times about evangelizing open source in Microsoft, and given today's news, he gained quite a bit of traction over the years. It also helped that ASP.NET MVC is a pretty sold web framework…

Funny thing is most MS devs seem to think that asp.net is on its way out.

Asp.Net 1.0 is still working on new servers. MS got compatibility covered better then any other firm :)

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by myth_buster »

dchichkov wrote: post #108
ceronman wrote: post #63

Cross platform developers tools by Microsoft! Great news! MS has some of the best developer tools out there. In my opinion, the only downside has been the dependency on the Windows platform. As a developer, I feel much more comfortable in a Unix environment. This move was unthinkable a decade ago. I'm very glad to see MS moving in this direction. Just because of this announcement I want to start playing with TypeScri…

This move was very thinkable a decade ago. Even two decades. In fact, a good example from 1995: From Wikipedia: The strategy and phrase "embrace, extend and extinguish", was first introduced in the United States v. Microsoft antitrust trial when the vice president of Intel, Steven McGeady, testified[8] that Microsoft vice president Paul Maritz used the phrase in a 1995 meeting with Intel to describe Microsoft's strat…

The quote:

  Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
  And those who can are condemned to see others repeat it.
comes to mind when I see the enthusiasm in this thread. The top comment itself seems like a blind praise one would hear in a cult.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by mavdi »

deeviant wrote: post #105
strictnein wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Download works from here.

The download worked for me, but the zip archive was corrupted, so I didn't even get a chance to try it out on linux (ubuntu 12.04)

Yup can confirm, doesn't seem to work on Ubuntu

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by notsony »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #285
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Some HN'ers may not recall Microsoft's "sleeping giant awakes" moment with the Internet in the 90's. Speaking of tidal waves, hang on to your surfboards, it's going to be big and fast. http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/07/internet-tidal-wave.htm...

Tim Cook's too busy with Jonathan Ive and Angela Ahrendts, turning Apple into a luxury goods company, to even know what just hit him.

Slowly but surely the best developers are going to leave the Mac platform leaving only consulting body-shops and corporates on iOS. Developing for the Mac and iOS is miserable. It wasn't always that way, but it is now.

Developers* are sick of proprietary stacks, from the language (Swift), to the APIs (Cocoa/CoreX/iOS), to the conditions attached (iCloud SDK only available for Mac Apps sold through the Mac Store), to the penny-pinching (pay your $99 fee and 30% even though we're raising $billion in debt to buy-back shares and hand out dividends because we're too tight-fisted to repatriate overseas funds and pay taxes on it) to the still broken XCode which only runs on a Mac, which must run Yosemite which feels like a Fisher-Price toy rather than a workstation for developers.

*Well, ok, I'm sick of it, but I'm sure a few people reading this are feeling the same way.

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