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Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Post by _Adam »

zackmorris wrote: post #256
josteink wrote: post #187

Discussing "licensing" in a thread about coffee. Fuck. This is not what the future was supposed to be about. The future was supposed to bring us infinite possibilities through the means of technology. It was meant to be awesome. It was not meant to be artificially limited through the means of technology which could have been used to make our lives better instead. Where did we go wrong?

A big ah hah moment for me was realizing that money is a representation of inefficiency. So for example, if everyone had a means of growing their own food, generating their own electricity, taking care of their own health, and had unlimited access to information, we wouldn't need to buy things or pay for services. A Mr. Fusion and a replicator would be all we needed. That’s probably the real reason they don’t use mon…

Money is just a tool humans use to represent value. It is up to us to decide what is valuable.

It's not about efficiency or inefficiency. You can't alone create everything. Food, water, power, maybe. But what about designing something great and complex?

You could argue people would do this for free, but that's not right. A designer isn't an emoting artist seeking to express some particular vision. A designer solves humanity's problems. There's usually lots of things we want to express, but we don't have time to express them all. The way we select the problem to solve is by evaluating the economic potential of it.

In other words, money makes people solve problems other people care about. It's the fitness function of technological evolution.

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Post by ThePhysicist »

xresonance wrote: post #267
ThePhysicist wrote: post #193

That's a really nice hack, I fear though that the next generation of "broken by design" consumer electronics devices will make use of much more sophisticated DRM technologies to make sure you only use them as intended by the manufacturer. An example is the German startup Bonaverde ( http://www.bonaverde.com ), which manufactures a coffee machine that not only grinds but also roasts your coffee beans. To make sure tha…

Bonaverde changed their approach, and removed the DRM from the machine (thankfully!) From their update email: "It will also open access to the machine so that you can use whichever green beans you want."

That's great to hear actually, glad they changed their policy. I just hope they will follow through with this and deliver the product.

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Post by smcg »

keithpeter wrote: post #274
michaelt wrote: post #188

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On a lot of consumer products there's a resettable thermal fuse built into the heating element. Burning down people's houses is bad for business :)

I'll put my hand up for that one. Old fashioned non-automatic electric kettles had such a device that handily pushed out the kettle lead thus disconnecting the mains. I was saved from some embarrasment and redectoration by this a third of a century ago. PS: how could you detect the presence of water? Photocell? Ultrasound? Conductivity between two small contacts 20% of the way up the jug?

At least in my Keurig: there are 2 tanks, 1 external, 1 internal. There is a float in the external tank that detects if there is enough water in the external to fill up the internal. If so, then it brews the internal tank and then fills it up from the external after the coffee is made. If there is not enough water to fill up the tank, it won't start.

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Post by shoover »

michael_h wrote: post #227
shoover wrote: post #206

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Right. I've been using the Aeropress for about seven years. To this day I still use it every week, if not every day. I think the plunger is starting to go. The point is it makes great coffee, and I've convinced many friends and family to buy one, but now I caution people that while it probably makes the best single serving coffee in a $25 package, it's not perfect. Basically there are a lot of parts and you're workin…

If the rubber plunger is starting to feel "gummy" around the edge, you might be able to get a replacement for free. They had a problem for a while and were shipping out replacement parts no questions asked.

Thanks for the tip. The seal let some coffee through one time and I also had some slime growing inside it. Gross. But it's several years old maybe expected at some point.

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Post by brianpgordon »

nyolfen wrote: post #143
brianpgordon wrote: post #94

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Primarily because caffeine is extremely bitter and adding too much will ruin it. I tried to put like 500mg of caffeine powder in my cereal once and it was utterly disgusting. I got about 4 spoonfuls in before I couldn't take it anymore.

why wouldn't you just take caffeine pills man

It's much, much cheaper if you buy the powder. But yeah, I ended up buying gel capsules and making my own pills.

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Post by rancur »

nirvdrum wrote: post #242
rancur wrote: post #163

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if by right gas mixture you mean 100% nitrogen, it's inert, and is used in tires and bags of chips. When the bags of chips are opened, however, the other special ingredient 'crisp' that they put in escapes

That's not what I meant.

what else would they use? it's perfectly inert, there's nothing to engineer. Traditionally coffee is vacuum packed, but nitrogen works fine too

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Post by rancur »

rancur wrote: post #287
nirvdrum wrote: post #242

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That's not what I meant.

what else would they use? it's perfectly inert, there's nothing to engineer. Traditionally coffee is vacuum packed, but nitrogen works fine too

IE, you got marketed to. That's fine, I'm just saying, I don't think they did something new

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Post by devindotcom »

qsymmachus wrote: post #38
devindotcom wrote: post #32

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A pourover cone seems a more practical version of this method, or a french press. Though in a pinch it will work!

Those are certainly more civilized options, this is just the cheapest way imaginable. Great for backpacking too, all you need to bring besides your stove is cheese cloth. There's absolutely no correlation between how expensive your coffee making process is and how good it tastes.

Yeah, if you have money, spend it on nice beans and a burr grinder. My Porlex hand grinder has lasted for years of daily use!

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Post by esaym »

mcguire wrote: post #272
esaym wrote: post #146

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Agreed. Solution, get a popcorn popper and head over to sweetmaria's: http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/instructions.html

I'm hoping you are talking about a stove-top popper: http://www.whirleypopshop.com/stovetop-poppers.html Hard to get a consistent roast, but the result is very, very fresh. And you get to enjoy coffee roasting smoke!

No, talking about an air popper. Have ran about 26 pounds through it over the last year (92 grams at a time!). I might try other methods in the future. Thought about those $300 drum rollers, but really, I have been happy enough with my popper.

Hmm, I also just realized I drank 26 pounds of coffee this year, awesome.

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