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Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by justin66 »

MBCook wrote: post #186
justin66 wrote: post #123

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> Apple has done this so well, for so long, I am pissed-off MS can't get its act together. Apple doesn't pre-announce products at all, do they? This was sloppy (Microsoft is going to have something up for preorders tomorrow, why not just put it up when the speech is finished?) but it's not something Apple even does.

As soon as Apple's press event is done, anything they've announced is up on their site to read about or often buy. Is MS announces something, you should be able to go to microsoft.com to read about it.

You seem to be deliberately missing the point. Apple doesn't pre-announce products at all. Criticizing the way Microsoft did it is reasonable. Making a comparison to Apple while doing so is a little bit nonsensical.

If Apple were to get into the habit of pre-announcing products would they put detailed product data on the web? Would they allow for preorders, as Microsoft is apparently going to do tomorrow? Who knows? Not having to make decisions like that is part of the advantage of not pre-announcing products.

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Post by pekk »

ggreer wrote: post #50

That's a really nice piece of hardware. I've used MacBook Airs since 2010, but the Surface 3 looks to be strictly dominating in the hardware department. Unfortunately, I don't think Microsoft will convert many OS X devs unless they make some changes to their software. One of the advantages of OS X is that it's a Unix, and lots of Unix software runs on it. It's not hard to compile tools such as nmap, Vim, or steam loc…

OS X is different from other Unix in many important ways that will affect you from day to day, so I wouldn't be too quick to congratulate Apple on making a Unix environment. If you want Unix, use Unix.

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Post by acjohnson55 »

rayiner wrote: post #61
bane wrote: post #16

I'm starting to see more and more Surface devices in my area. It seems to be getting popular with the Starbuck's salesguy crowd who need something as compact as a tablet, but they can use real applications on. I know that's kind of cliche, but you don't really "get" that meaning until you walk into a coffee shop and see 2 or 3 people sitting around with tablets sticking up on the tables. The Android and iPad guys are…

I'm really excited about this, because its perfect for me (modulo not having Metro version of Office). 12" at that aspect ratio is just right for reading and marking up documents, reviewing drafts, taking notes, etc. That's 90% of my work flow. Surface Pro 2 wasn't good enough for me because 10.6" at 16:9 was just too narrow. I either did a ton of vertical scrolling or squinted to see things in portrait mode despite…

I'm with you. When the first Pro came out, I thought "awesome idea, but I want to wait for them to iron out the inevitable kinks". The Pro 2 looked great as well, and I thought, "just one more iteration".

I don't think I'll be able to resist this time, especially because I don't think there's a Macbook Pro 15" that feels like a true upgrade from 4 year old machine.

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Post by watty »

integraton wrote: post #214
watty wrote: post #7

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The differentiator is the OS. One of them is for play, the other is for productivity. Comparing full Windows 8.1 to iOS is Apples to Oranges.

Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, back here in reality, iOS dominates the enterprise: http://media.www1.good.com/documents/rpt-mobility-index-q413...

iOS is great for certain tasks but comparing it to OSX or Windows for productivity is silly. I have 3 iOS devices in my household, we love them. None of us use it for work though, they're leisure devices. No one at my company uses iOS for work, they use Windows and OSX. Also, your link is showing smart phones and tablets used at work, which certainly favor iOS. What does this have to do with the Microsoft Surface?

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Post by mung »

How can it be 3:2 aspect and HD at the same time? It's one or the other or it has rectangle pixels.

Edit: nevermind... comes in 3:2 AND HD display. This is what happens when you read while doing something else.

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Post by pandatigox »

X4 wrote: post #206
smrtinsert wrote: post #194

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They should really just buy cygwin and make it the default shell keeping powershell as optional. It's time for MS to acknowledge they need to catch up and be a little bit more interoperable with power users from other oses. cygiwn is one of the first thing i install when I bring up a new windows box.

Ontopic: I would buy it, if these criterias were met: 1) I can install an unpopular Linux distro onto it (NO VM!). 2) I won't get serious issues on Linux, due to no drivers being found compatible, overheating, hybrid-gpu switching problems, touchscreen issues, jumping stylus, battery dead in @smrtinsert Should, would, could. But they didn't, for about two centuries, sorry シ There is so much hope in your writing, hope…

> 1) I can install an unpopular Linux distro onto it (NO VM!).

Is it possible to still install Ubuntu through the Windows Installer?

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Post by stefap2 »

iandanforth wrote: post #104

Warning, rant. Why the duck isn't there information on the Surface Pro 3 on the MS website? Apple has done this so well, for so long, I am pissed-off MS can't get its act together. You make an announcement, you need presence on the web. You need to start your customers expectations building, whet their appetite, and tease them. Their experience starts now and right now that experience is reading news articles and rea…

it's now on their front page

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Post by MartinCron »

freehunter wrote: post #231
LaikaF wrote: post #190

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Ctrl- Shift - Esc It puts you straight into processes tab and can be done with one hand.

Does it still take minutes to load, though? My problem has never been the difficulty in launching Task Manager, it's been with getting task manager to respond in any amount of hurry.

I just hit CTL+SHIFT+ESC and Task Manager was there instantaneously. If things have gone so screwy that you really need Task Manager, then yeah, it will probably be slow.

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Post by sixothree »

mands wrote: post #96
bratsche wrote: post #74

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I know you're not being serious, but there are some other terminal apps that are better than the basic DOS prompt. Check out ConEmu, for example. Now, once you've got ConEmu or something like it that will resize nicely and do other things, you'll still be stuck on the crappy DOS-style prompt though. :)

Also checkout Cmder ( http://bliker.github.io/cmder/ ) for a pre-customised ConEmu that bundles several useful UNIX commands. Plus ConEmu supports Quake-style dropdown that has radically improved my work-flow on Windows. Also Powershell is pretty awesome if you take the time out to learn it.

Why does the default prompt have {git} and {lamb}? Is there any intro documentation?
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