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Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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I think if this idea of equivalence between paid and pirated content is taken to it's logical extreme, the result will be less movies being produced. Maybe it's preferable to keep it as is today: piracy as an option for some and as a force against too much control from the content industry.

Why shouldn't the cost of entertainment naturally drop as more high-quality content is produced? And if that's the case, aren't big-budget productions already living on borrowed time? To explain, entertainment is fungible, and today we have an embarrassment of entertaining riches: books, hangouts, news, board games, video games, music, TV, social web, sporting events, etc. Almost all of these things can be distribute…

> Since entertainment is fungible, the competition for for 12 Years a Slave isn't just Dallas Buyers Club, it's also 2048, reddit, Attack on Titan, the Olympics, and whatever piques my interest during a Steam Sale. That sounds like the increase in supply for entertainment is far outstripping the increase in demand.

That's only because the home video market allowed people the luxury to legally watch any existing movie anytime they want, once they have purchased it, without the possibility of the studio revoking permission.

Don't worry - studios are already trying to think of ways to "fix" that (stream-only content that is never released in DVD format is one example)

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#282

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And youtube has a sophisticated detection system setup that scans uploads for copyrighted content automatically. I'm thinking with the press this app is getting they are going to be forced to do something similar and block illegal content, or take it offline soon.

But it requires copyright holders to be part of it. Most are not, and most can not.

It's actually a very bad system.

YouTube with its reporting system has created a de facto situation where rightsholder giants like record companies, their copyrights matter, while the copyrights of the random creator (The Long Tail!) are never enforced.

Maybe you are a long tail creator and you police youtube. But most won't. Maybe they can't. Maybe they are dead.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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The less people paying to see a movie equals less movies being made, which means less employment for people involved with making movies.

Quite innacurate and narrow. Many movies don't make the weekend. You will see them at some stores for 1 dollar one month later. It's not the users who kill the industry. Actually, in this era more and more tv shows are made because they're a better format than movies and because they're attracting people to consume or pay services. Movies will never dissapear, only the worth making movies will make it and that task w…

The folks in the entertainment business who have seen revenue drop since the 90s when bandwidth and mp3 / video encoding became practical would disagree.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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> it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Nonsense. I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. There are real issues with funding mechanisms and creative work in a shareable digital world, but we can reject the idea that you should always pay for anything that is beneficial. If you want to give gifts to creative folks you like, you can…

Ah, spoken like someone who has never created anything of value.

This kind of discourse just isn't productive.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #137

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That's not the only downside. The other is there's a tax on storage hardware even if you never do anything with copyrighted anything. And all the tax ends up going to wealthy corporations anyway and smaller artists will never see anything.

Oh absolutely. There are lots of reasons to object to the fee. So if you want to get your money's worth out of it, you'd better start downloading.

You could also import your storage media from China/HK/whatever in small enough parcels that the customs don't bother.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #163

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quandrangle didn't say don't pay anyone. They said just because something is good, doesn't mean we have to pay every time we consume it. There are other conceivable ways of funding these things. Like crowd-funding, micropayments, whatever. If everyone followed quadrangle's logic, people who wanted to produce movies would find another way to fund them.

Please explain how crowd-funding a movie even makes sense? There are plenty of movies with actors I love that are terrible. Have you seen RED (or worse, RED 2)? For the same reason your boss doesn't pay you for the month you haven't worked yet, you shouldn't expect people to produce movies without any reliable way of getting paid.

My boss pays me three months in advance.

And you're talking about a very new funding model. I'm not saying there are necessarily lots of examples of great movies already produced with this model. I'm saying they could easily be. A good number of projects have raised millions on kickstarter [1], including two movies [2, 3].

There's no reason the movie industry couldn't move to a pre-funding model. Or some other model nobody has thought of yet.

[1] https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/most-funded

[2] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1869987317/wish-i-was-h...

[3] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spikelee/the-newest-hot...

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #186

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If a movie looks good, ill go to see it. That's how Hollywood makes money. Unfortunately the majority of blockbusters are trash. That's what projects like this are for.

If it's trash then wouldn't it make sense to just not watch it at all? Why is it that we somehow 'deserve' to watch a film at whatever price we think is reasonable, when the whole thing is optional anyway?

Exactly.

I don't have HBO so I don't watch Game of Thrones. It's not like my life suffers immensely because I can't consume it. There are plenty of other forms of culture and entertainment in the world that I use to occupy my time.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #186

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If a movie looks good, ill go to see it. That's how Hollywood makes money. Unfortunately the majority of blockbusters are trash. That's what projects like this are for.

Except you're being scammed by Hollywood. I had numerous friends who went to school for film and went elsewhere due to finding out that the purpose behind it is to turn a profit, not to create something of worth. Every blockbuster movie contains the same boilerplate concept, the masses are too hypnotized to realize their money is being drained.

Because all entertainment must also be high art?

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#290
Are you guys seriously crying and screaming about compensation when so many actors/directors/producers are filthy rich? I am sure they are all so hungry right now...Think about it! Not to mention the differences between countries regarding salaries and quality of life.
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