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David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Post by disintermediate »

will_asouka wrote: post #135

> "I have a very clear message for Google, Bing, Yahoo and the rest. You have a duty to act on this – and it is a moral duty. If there are technical obstacles to acting on [search engines], don't just stand by and say nothing can be done; use your great brains to help overcome them. >"You're the people who have worked out how to map almost every inch of the Earth from space; who have developed algorithms that make se…

If the MPAA wants software to protect its outdated business model, it ought to pay for it itself, not lobby the gov to threaten tech firms.

This is about developing filters to prevent piracy. You'll see.

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Post by andyhmltn »

rmc wrote: post #265
andyhmltn wrote: post #196

Why are people so afraid of pornography? A healthy society is one that promotes sex. Not one that censors its citizens for 'the children.' Don't get me wrong: People that look at children and the like should be caught and prosecuted. But really, the way to go about that isn't to ban ALL of pornography. Are we to ban butter knifes incase someone goes on a rampage with one? No, we identify the issues that cause someone…

There are people who don't like sex. They don't think it's right for people to like sex, they think sex should only be used for procreation. I call them sex-orexics, like anarexics, they have a similar attitude towards sex that anarexics have towards food. It's just not healthy.

Indeed it's not. You often find that the people that have their sex life suppressed and made to feel disgusting are the ones with the weirdest bedroom habits.

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Post by JanneVee »

>> If there are technical obstacles to acting on [search engines], don't just stand by and say nothing can be done; use your great brains to help overcome them.

>> "You're the people who have worked out how to map almost every inch of the Earth from space; who have developed algorithms that make sense of vast quantities of information. Set your greatest brains to work on this. You are not separate from our society, you are part of our society, and you must play a responsible role in it."

Do I read this right? So they don't care how expensive or hard the problem is to solve they just demand it to be solved. And even if the solution is bad or expensive, both customers and taxpayers must still pay to have it implemented. Got it.

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Post by vfclists »

This law only shows the kind of filthy, dirty, sleazebags our politicians have become. The whole idea is to create a database of people who are happy to view porn on their internet connections. The concept is so outrageous that it simple boggles the mind. What kind grubby vote seeking laws are politicians going to come up with next?

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Post by eru »

computer wrote: post #274
flexie wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if Britain didn't have real problems to deal with: - Long term unemployment is at a 17 year high. - Government debt is at 90 percent of GDP. - Violent crimes is worst in EU. For years Britain has feared loosing sovereignty to the European Union. To me it seems like they should maybe worry more about American influence with all the wars they fight, the spying on their citizens and now the neo puritanism.

> "- Government debt is at 90 percent of GDP." Describing debt as percentage of GDP is a subjective anti-debt framing of the issue. Here's why: Units of debt: $ (here pounds). Units of GDP: $/year. So, units of debt/GDP: years, not percent. Since "100%" sounds like a high number, this way of framing the numbers is useful for scaring people. Putting it mathematically correct "11 months" sounds much less scary.

Yes, though of course, the numbers should get their scare value from something more objective. I.e. some kind of study about how much debt is actually harmful (or not?).

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Post by toble »

Sven7 wrote: post #41
conroy wrote: post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

I think they have taken a good step in the right direction. Kids are exposed to too much crap these days. Kids growing up with involved parents and teachers turn out alright, but there are a whole lot of kids who aren't that lucky.

Can I just point out, there's some irony here. HN users are attempting to censor this comment by making it difficult to read because they don't agree with the opinion.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Post by eru »

jsmeaton wrote: post #176
orblivion wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be a good countermeasure. If people are bold enough in numbers, everybody put the evil words into Google search, rendering the data useless. Though it'd have to be done on a regular basis, which is not going to work out.

That's how I think we should combat things like PRISM. If there was a mass protest every week, by millions of individuals, all searching/texting/emailing "kill president" "home made bomb" "chemical explosion", that data would become really really heavy. They might have to cut back on drag-netting everything and focus on specific targets.

Coming up with some statistical filtering beyond `grep' shouldn't be too hard..
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