It takes 5 cloud services to hear my doorbell

Post by whstl » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 4:23 PM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #280

whstl wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have any features you want, but people get to call it over-engineering if they say so, and "it's in the requirements" is not a shield against it.

In the sense that people don't have to be right they can call anything over-engineering. But it helps to have somewhat objective criteria, like whether it was feature creep. And this was not feature creep. And custom sound for something like this is a desirable feature for the average person; you can look at the massive ringtone business in the 00s to prove that.

It is also the right of anyone to call something feature creep, using their own criteria.

> And custom sound for something like this is a desirable feature for the average person; you can look at the massive ringtone business in the 00s to prove that.

And every AI startup should send a monthly Tulip to every user. The Tulip craze of the 1630s proves that.

Post by Dylan16807 » Thu, Sep 03, 2026, 6:09 PM UTC

whstl wrote: post #281

Dylan16807 wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sense that people don't have to be right they can call anything over-engineering. But it helps to have somewhat objective criteria, like whether it was feature creep. And this was not feature creep. And custom sound for something like this is a desirable feature for the average person; you can look at the massive ringtone business in the 00s to prove that.

It is also the right of anyone to call something feature creep, using their own criteria. > And custom sound for something like this is a desirable feature for the average person; you can look at the massive ringtone business in the 00s to prove that. And every AI startup should send a monthly Tulip to every user. The Tulip craze of the 1630s proves that.

What a broken analogy. These people were paying small amounts for something they directly enjoyed. And the main reason the business dropped away is because phones made it orders of magnitude easier to do it yourself.

People like to customize sounds. Lots and lots of people.

> It is also the right of anyone to call something feature creep, using their own criteria.

I was listening to your potential argument for "over-engineered", but "feature creep" is pretty objective. This was not feature creep. OP wanted a specific feature from the start and even went out of their way to exclude lots of features.

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