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Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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GrapheneOS rejected the shadow account idea because it would be very obvious to everyone that it was a shadow account.

But it wouldn't be illegal, I suppose. That's what counts, in the end.

The threat model of GrapheneOS is that the law is irrelevant and the attacker will do anything to get your data.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Using GrapheneOS makes you a terrorist now. I'm a terrorist.

Since the courts decided you have to use your fingerprint to unlock your phone (because they decided that's not giving up your password and they can't compel you to give up your password), what if you use your fingerprint to wipe your phone? But you don't tell anyone ahead of time when they force you to use it. I'm sure you'd be arrested at the least. I can't be the only person who has thought of this.

This would still be destruction of evidence - virtually your only defense against that would be if it was not triggered by you.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

“Chief, we got a citizen here with a suspiciously small online footprint. Investigate further?”

IIRC ICE has detained people trying to enter America without social media apps.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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post #265

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> How about a Faraday box, by the door? Not as easy as one may think. If you put a phone in a generic waterproof metal box (metal junction or biscuit box for instance) and call it with another one, most of the time it will still ring...

A Faraday box that doesn't block signals is just a box.

The point is how do you know it's a Faraday box?

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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post #103

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You've tripped right over the difference though. Corporations aren't people. They do not and cannot present a personal threat to you. Even your trailing example falls flat on this: for the activity to be distressing you had to recontextualize it back to the individual level.

It might be worth revisiting the definition of the term "Banana Republic" and the history of the United Fruit Company[1]. Corporations have toppled democratic governments, run dodgy drug trials and given breast feeding mothers just enough free powdered milk to stop being able to feed their babies. We have large online retailers, Temu and Shein, accused of using forced labour aka slavery. Even a well known SaaS operat…

Not to mention corporations GOVERNED ENTIRE COUNTRIES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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> Using GrapheneOS makes you a According to?

https://www.androidauthority.com/why-i-use-grapheneos-on-pix...

Thank you, I will devour it, but it seems to misrepresent a naïve point: simple Bayes. Id est,

> Law enforcement officials in Catalonia say they associate Pixels with crime because drug traffickers are increasingly turning to these phones

And that is correct behaviour under frequentistic reasoning (and still abysmal behaviour in the non-expressed potential case that it be done indiscriminately): if in a population a tool is related to many criminals and the very few sane people, that tool is a justified element for suspicion. But for suspicion only, in the coldest terms: the Sane use it, and using it is a sign of sanity: for that reason, of course you do not /assume/ that those who use that tools are criminals.

To have a knife raises suspect in the land of the stabbers and raises little suspect in the land of the scouts.

Only the bad tail of the curve mixes "suspect" and "assumption"; and only the worse tail of the curve thinks that since stabbers use knives we should do without them. Especially in this dire case in which obviously for reasons of Dignity, we will not, all capitals, ___will not___, keep spying devices on us. It is difficult to find examples and similes stronger than the actual case.

The article in fact fumbles into a very bad sentence:

> You might be wondering: if I don’t have anything to hide, why should I bother using GrapheneOS? That[!!!] a fair question

No, that is a very stupid question: Dignity imposes privacy, and we have ___everything___ to hide to the zombie apocalypse of cretins.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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How about when that thoughtful email becomes a visit from law enforcement because your projects don’t align with the current administration’s views? When something you said offers support for anyone other than The Party’s chosen ethnic group?

"what if the government becomes a dictatorship" is a stupid question: you either stood up and opposed it, or you let it happen. My privacy is important as a matter of consent. But I should not have to hide my sexuality or identity, nor my politics and if my support of a marginalized group exists then what is the point of hiding it while they are oppressed? What benefit does that bring? Encouraging people to be privat…

The benefit is not getting murdered by the government hope this explanation helps

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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post #260

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Well, guess what happens: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/28/us/duress-password-phone-...

That happened because he chose to give the duress PIN. Cops are allowed to just grab your finger and scan it against your protest. You can say "don't do that, it'll wipe my phone" and they'll do it anyway and it'll wipe your phone, and now it certainly isn't your fault.

What does it matter? The state certainly isn't going to throw up its hands and say "you got us". They're still going to try to make it out to be your fault and even if you do successfully argue it wasn't of your volition, they've still robbed you of years of your life and hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Since the courts decided you have to use your fingerprint to unlock your phone (because they decided that's not giving up your password and they can't compel you to give up your password), what if you use your fingerprint to wipe your phone? But you don't tell anyone ahead of time when they force you to use it. I'm sure you'd be arrested at the least. I can't be the only person who has thought of this.

IANAL, but I would bet that's still destruction of evidence. Judges are human, for better or worse, and can see the intention behind cute tricks like this. It might work if your fingerprint was used while you were unconscious, but any solution that starts with "setup a trigger that wipes a device" is already on shaky grounds.

> "setup a trigger that wipes a device" is already on shaky grounds

It isn't on shaky grounds: you protect your private device from everyone, not just from some "law enforcement". If you want to protect your private device from any party (e.g. thieves, trivially), it will also be protected against law enforcement agents as a side effect.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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post #265

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A Faraday box that doesn't block signals is just a box.

The point is how do you know it's a Faraday box?

Presumably if you're driven by paranoia to buy or make a Faraday box you will be paranoid enough to try putting your phone in it and calling it
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