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Re: The coolest use for the Vision Pro

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Post by mercutio2 »

socalgal2 wrote: post #145
asadotzler wrote: post #98

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It's been 2.5 years and Apple still hasn't sold out of its test run of 500k units. About 350k of those sold in year 1, about 50k sold in year two, and less than 20K so far in year 3. Workers at Apple's flagship retail stores are saying they haven't sold one in recent memories. The tables displaying them are disappearing from stores. Roadmaps for all future goggles have been shelved. It's a flop and Apple knows it.

The only thing you need to see is how many Apple employees use them. Answer, almost none If it was amazing as a display for work then most Apple employees would be using them at work. It's not, so they aren't If it was amazing as a movie viewer most Apple employees would be watching movies on them. It's not, so they aren't repeat for any other use case. Compare to iPhone/iPad/Mac, every Apple employee uses them. Prob…

Have you gone around and surveyed Apple corporate employees to gather this insight? I’m amazed that your manager didn’t get a call from Apple security, if so.

They weren't handing out dev fused AVPs in sufficient number for anyone to do this when I left. And Apple software developers rarely buy their own hardware, why would you, when you get most of the hardware for free (and dev fused)?

It is true that buying one for use as an extra monitor was pretty niche at Apple Park. And it’s also true that everyone is crammed into shared offices where it would feel anti-social to be wearing one all the time.

So I’m vaguely aligned with you on the utility to the average dev, but your argument for why makes little sense.

FWIW almost none of my direct reports used HomePods, from your list of freely available devices, and grabbing an iPad for anything other than testing was maybe 50/50. And I don’t think you’d claim the iPad isn’t popular.

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Post by johndhi »

rickdeckard wrote: post #248
simonjgreen wrote: post #230

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This comment got me curious, as it felt attainable/more commonplace to me. I did some searching, and according to gov.uk stats 7-10% of homes in UK are custom/self-build homes. That is actually surprisingly high!

> 7-10% of homes in UK are custom/self-build homes Worth to note that there is a huge practical difference between a "custom" and a "self-build" home. - On "self-build" you take full personal responsibility for finding land, securing planning permission, managing the budget, and hiring architects or builders. - On "custom" you buy from a developer who already has pre-approved planning permissions, often for a huge se…

Toolbox minefield made me laugh.

I guess I'm in the .001%: my father in law built homes for a living and built his own home and every piece of furniture in it himself. Everything lasts longer and works better than in professionally built homes in my experience. He's a real marvel.

I suspect there may not many more people with his skillset after his generation passes.

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Post by djhworld »

I definitely resonate with the "my software-oriented brain feels almost incompatible with this world of designing a home"

I really struggle with visualising what things are going to look like. Even trivial stuff like choosing a colour to paint the wall. Sticking tiny paint swatches or painting sections from sample pots just doesn't work either, it's either all or nothing to me. I don't have that aphantasia thing either, quite a vivid imagination actually, but for stuff like home decor and I'm useless

I'm not really in the market for a vision pro or VR headset so my version of this is to take a picture of a space (say a wall) and feed it into on of the AI image generators with a colour - probably taken from a screenshot of a paint vendor, and tell it to generate me an image of what the wall would look like in .

Obviously it's not perfect but it's definitely given me a better idea of what, in the ballpark, something would look like when painted on the whole wall.

I've also had some success with getting it to generate stuff with wall decor on as well, even pasting in product images (e.g. "what would this mirror look like") - even on the "painted" wall.

Again, not perfect, but it's helped me a lot.

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Post by trueno »

hbn wrote: post #221
johnhamlin wrote: post #114

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Like many others, I said I’d quit Reddit when they killed Apollo. I was skeptical that I’d actually follow through, but it didn’t end up being a sacrifice at all. The official app sucks so hard it isn’t fun to browse, and now that the mobile site forces you to download the app, I don’t even look at posts from search results much anymore.

The official app is so bad that basically all quality posters left, along with practically all decent moderators except power-tripping assholes who are happy as long as they have a ban button. Reddit's post quality dropped so hard after they killed off the API. It's night and day.

then you got companies astroturfing their own subreddits cough /r/snowflake pumping their own fake comments about using whatever AI nonsense they have and relentlessly downvote anything questioning if the content in the sub is even real lmao. this thread had me in tears https://www.reddit.com/r/snowflake/comments/1uoioz6/coco_gui... the mod of that sub de-modded the snowflake employees and there's a sticky now talking about what to do about snowflake fake engagement. lmao that subreddit is a prime example of how the utility of subreddits has pretty much evaporated

it's so funny how corporations throw literally everything they have to control narratives and it just drives people away. all companies tried so hard to have a twitter presence and that site is now nothing but a wasteland of sports journalism and racist bots.

but yeah, reddit sucks. it can't decide what it wants to be but it sure is barreling towards yet another crappy scrolly social media platform

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Post by klabb3 »

gwd wrote: post #151

Leveling this up: Calculate sun angles at different times of the year to simulate light entering the house. Find out if some room is going to be unbearably hot in the summer because it's got too much full sunlight; make sure there are windows that can take maximum advantage of sunlight in the winter months; maximize opportunities to accidentally catch the sunset / sunrise.

1000%. If you have the luxury/curse of _building_ the house on empty land simulating light is extremely important imo. It determines everything from layout of rooms to window placement to furnishing etc. (You probably don’t want eg sun behind TV). Even ants orient their dwellings with respect to sunlight.

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Post by xandrius »

singingtoday wrote: post #206
xandrius wrote: post #59

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Yep, we did hackathons with old Oculus Rift DK1 around this concept over 15 years ago or so.

That's awesome! How was shipping it? How was the product market fit?

We literally held stuff together with duct tape as the project also turned the Oculus into a VR + AR system. Taped 2 webcams to act as eyes as then you could toggle VR and AR.

Shipping it was stressful (renderer was in Ogre3D) and product fit well my face thanks to all the tape.

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Post by xbmcuser »

simonjgreen wrote: post #230
artisinal wrote: post #223

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I really hope that one day I am so incredibly rich that I can hire a team like yours. It would be amazing to have a professional firm design a house for you. I’m guessing you have to be in the 1% for that.

This comment got me curious, as it felt attainable/more commonplace to me. I did some searching, and according to gov.uk stats 7-10% of homes in UK are custom/self-build homes. That is actually surprisingly high!

not really when less than 70% people own their home

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

Mawr wrote: post #280
NuclearPM wrote: post #209

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Reducing?

Never get married, man...

There is a continual stream of TV programs about housing which tell you every problem can be solved by knocking a wall down, building an extension, installing bi-fold doors or a granite worktop.

If your partner watches this stuff then you are in trouble.

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Post by embedding-shape »

SirHackalot wrote: post #148
jondiggsit wrote: post #68

My team uses this technology on a daily basis at my company. I run a design / build firm in the Hamptons, USA. We start all of our design projects with a 3d-first approach. Schematic design starts in 3D using Rhino3D or Revit. We use visualization plugins, like Enscape, to render the models and stream to a Quest 3 headset. So when clients come in, and feels adventurous, we'll setup the headset, set the display height…

This comment almost made me quit my job and pursue my original passion in architecture. So the job was, all along, as fun as I imagined it… And the full-stack knowledge to make it happen is still rare? I am currently designing my house in Blender and was planning to import it into Unreal Engine to make it navigable. HN has a way of serving me the content I’m looking for at the right time…

> pursue my original passion in architecture

Do it! You have the knowledge, you have the interest, you now have confirmation someone else was able to do it, so can you! No time to wait, just jump in and start planning, then execute! I don't know why people hesitate so much, you do literally only live once, and who has time to sit around thinking "what if?" when we're old and just want to chill? Worst case scenario, you fail, learned a bunch, lean back on what supported you before, maybe in a slightly different way, but with so many more fun memories.

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