Chatto is now open source

We just installed it on our vps. All super smooth. We also enabled push on the serverside and now I get iOS notifications via the PWA. Generally super fast and snappy!

Been waiting for something like this. Love to see the NATS backend.

I hope it's as good as it sounds. Thanks for open sourcing <3

> "the future is changed now, so you can't change it again"

that's not what I said.

As technologists, we repeatedly change the future - that's what makes all the pain, sweat and tears worth it. 35 years ago, when I was getting serious about computers, buying them and encouraging others to use them, people would shake their fingers at me, saying how these bulky TVs that you can press buttons at were a passing fad, that it was an absolute waste of everyone's time even thinking one would sit in front of a TV and press at buttons for more than an hour a day, that there was no reasonable way it would translate into anything but extremely niche entertainment. They would lecture me on how I was a kid who didn't know any better, that I was wasting my time out of ignorance and that I should listen to the adults who had decades of life experience and focus my time and continue studying organic chemistry and become a doctor because who didn't need a doctor?

> most vibe coded stuff doesn't seem to get maintained

even if this was true, cost of code consumption and generation has fallen so much, that anyone in a developed country can point their favorite agent to the "unmaintained vibe coded stuff" and then maintain it to their liking or rewrite it from scratch the way they wanted it to.

> most token usage doesn't produce any artifacts to begin with

Your previous statement contradicts "doesn't produce any artifacts" directly. Given what you have told me, the shallowest but congruent argument that can be made is "most token usage produces unmaintained vibe coded stuff".

It looks like you don't necessarily like what LLMs are providing to society and I can see why one would like to hold that opinion. I don't agree with that at all, because it's literally untrue given the insane demand - both from an everyday Joe and from corps the world over. No one's burning $20+/mo every month of their own money in this economy just because they are not getting anything of value.

My personal AI spend is $350/mo and it has been that for the last year. My blockers are gone. Projects that had been a distant thought, only cosidered during a flight, a wait at an airport or for a bus or Uber is finished in a weekend. My QoL and those of my family has improved so much, that I am really grateful about the times I live in.

My 100 year old grandfather struggles to communicate and remember things. I cannot expect to give him a tablet and have him use it. We have spent years looking for apps that we could use to make his life better. None of us are mobile app devs. Solved in a week.

I had random headaches when I woke up really early, ever since I was a teenager. Tens of thousands of dollars spent chasing lab tests and doctors, no solution. Resolved in a month.

The most I can do is encourage you to set aside your current stance, and just for one day, consider what if you could use LLMs to improve your life. What would you do?

I've been trying to find a Slack replacement since Salesfarce started ruining it and I must have tried out maybe 50 potential replacements, paid and free. This is the first self-hostable, open source one I've seen that doesn't look like design is the very last item on an amorphous future roadmap. In fact, there's some really nice design and UX touches in Chatto. Congrats on the launch, I'm absolutely certain we'll move off Slack to this when the dedicated apps arrive, maybe even before.

What does implementing soft-delete have to do with data storage though? If you just set up an S3-compatible backend like the docs offer you then have data persistence out of the box, no?