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NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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How are they going to MITM communications with certs that never left my machine? Are you suggesting they broke TLS or that they've somehow acquired every private cert generated?

How closely have you reviewed your browser's list of default trusted CAs?

My trusted CA doesn't have my private key, they only attest that my public key belongs to me.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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post #145

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>mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process Isn't this what technology progress looks like? Industrial tools allowed mediocre people to improve their productivity by orders of magnitude which is how we managed(in the past) to build so many amazing things with less human toil and suffering than previous generations.

Progress isn't always welcome by the incumbent who have built their moats on hoarding knowledge over being adaptable

Are you saying programmers aren't adaptable? I don't think I've ever seen this field pause to take a breath.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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How closely have you reviewed your browser's list of default trusted CAs?

My trusted CA doesn't have my private key, they only attest that my public key belongs to me.

Your many, many default-trusted CAs can mint new certs for the sites you visit.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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> Everyone lost access. Yes. But unlike the rest of us, NSA didn't have to if the administration had thought about it for 30 seconds before sending their letter. It's a stupid own-goal.

Americans didn't have to lose access either. It was Anthropic who chose to cut access to more people than they needed to.

Oh? How does Anthropic know I'm a citizen currently?

I have no doubt they're working on a passport submission flow as fast as they can now.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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post #14

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The constitution limits a lot of things that this administration has done regardless.

I hear you but, the Patriot act was the gateway. View it as a spectrum from then and how the Administration is now, and suddenly what the Donald is doing doesn't even seem bad: it seems on par for the dystopian road-map laid out long ago (I can't speak for before 9/11)

It is BOTH bad AND par for the course.

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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They could easily take the weights if they wanted. I don't believe they meaningfully lost access.

the success of mythos isn't from model weights, it's from the harness and toolset it has access to

source? credible rumor has mythos at 10 trillion params

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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> How are they going to MITM communications with certs that never left my machine? The long game. They: - make sure you wouldn't be in a position to need to transmit data anywhere that would receive it without CA's in their hypothetical pocket - manage the evolution of the cloud industry to make sure portable VM's and Containers can have their data archived (both in-RAM, disk, hey just send us the running VM!) - back…

And you're saying "they" (red flag) have done this with every cert generated?

They've most certainly tried.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_(decryption_program)

If you're a specific target of a nation-state level actor, things get worse; they just grab your hardware mid-shipment on its way to you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/report-nsa-intercepts...

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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honest question: does the nsa have the abilty to take the model weights from anthropic? also, as I understand it anthropic employees from the USA have mythos access, and I dont see why this shouldnt extend to the nsa. this seems pretty silly and kinda unbelievable. commenting again to add more infomaiton to my opinion and ask that you don't just blindly downvote bc I don't believe the nsa doesn't have mythos

Re: NSA lost access to Mythos amid Anthropic dispute

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post #166

'Mythos “broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.”' Is Mythos a significant danger? The curl experience does not suggest that hysteria is warranted, but this gives me pause.

Why are these things online at all? Is that a requirement for them to be useful?
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