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Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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post #30

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Forming unions is not the same as walking out based on some media propaganda.

While forming unions is a protected right in the US, it is incredibly stupid to signal that you will try to form a union during a job interview.

For sure, it is not the same though. Also, ML algos will try to estimate the probability that you do anyway without your consent and with silent consent from the governments.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#282

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I'm happy using GLM 5.2 at API pricing. There will never be a point where essentially unlimited usage (i.e. what I, as a normal developer, can use at peak effort) of extremely good models will become financially unattainable.

> There will never be a point where essentially unlimited usage (i.e. what I, as a normal developer, can use at peak effort) of extremely good models will become financially unattainable. The way you phrase this prevents refutation. But there will be a point where ordinary individuals cannot participate in the majority of the upside. In the future, some class of models will require enormous compute that is outside th…

Yes, I don't disagree with what you're saying. I'm responding to a specific claim: that the capabilities we have now will become much more expensive in the future.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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> So hypothetically one person can do a work of five. Note of that erases those people and their skills. It just doesn't magically take them out of the universe or turns them into unskilled persons. But it does magically erases those people with those skills as needed employees. > The real underlying issue is that demand for it doesn't catch up because world's coincidentally fucked (through a series of unrelated issu…

> Just because we can do something faster or automate parts of it doesn't guarantee demand will go up It's not guaranteed, but why wouldn't it? It's digital entertainment and art, and the market is not saturated, there's still tons of ideas unexplored. If more people would have spare money they can spend on digital purchases instead of making ends meet - I'm pretty sure there'd be more people seeking ways to earn tha…

>It's not guaranteed, but why wouldn't it? It's digital entertainment and art, and the market is not saturated, there's still tons of ideas unexplored.

Because there's only so much "digital entertainment and art" people practically care for, and already people were saturated and bored with all the crap out there pre-AI too.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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You are indeed wrong, there's no infinite demand for everything

I surely can be, but I don’t see it so far. How the latter suggests the former? The demand doesn’t have to scale infinitely - I don’t believe the demand is or was anywhere near saturation.

Most songs in streaming platforms (pre-AI even) sat there with no listeners.

Most of the flood of cable and streaming series had people over-saturated and bored.

Media consumption in general has resulted in a depressed population that tries to cut down.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#285

OP's opinion about AI coding is pretty obvious in this blog post. Maybe some of that sips out during interviews which certainly will spook the employer.

In the game industry this is actually a positive thing. If you think that AI can write code better than you can, I'm not going to disagree with you, but maybe you should try getting better or more specialized at what you do, because I can ask the AI simple questions about my field and it's completely wrong 3-4 prompts in. Using this technology to build anything remotely serious, OR EVEN GAMES, is wildly stupid.

> I can ask the AI simple questions about my field and it's completely wrong 3-4 prompts in.

I'm guessing that field is gaming? It would be interesting to know what those simple questions are and what's wrong the answers if you don't mind sharing.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

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If you don't have a full time job for a year, why don't you start a software business on your own? It's hard to succeed, but, successful or now, you will have something to show people and something that you are passionate to talk about. It will give you a new way to connect to people, and quite likely will help you to get hired. And who knows, maybe you will succeed.

Creating a business something that sounds soooo far fetched. It is such a tail event for me that I never even considered. How do you even begin? You just start calling people if they want your product?

Business is pretty simple actually: you begin by finding the market, then you proceed with getting a thing to sell on the market, then you sell you thing at the market. Think about it in simple terms: to start a business of selling vegetables – acquire vegetables, find a marketplace nearby, sit there and sell your vegetables. All businesses really are just increasingly sophisticated versions of this; source something of value, reach the customer, make money.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#287
post #7

Curious about the perspective from anyone who has a skill set / reputation where finding jobs is easy right now. I imagine people in ML or who've found a good way to demonstrate prowess with agentic systems may be highly in demand right now(?)

I work in an industry tangentially involved with the ML build-out (think companies like Broadcom, Marvell, etc.). We can't find enough people, if you have like 3+ years of experience with PCIe, Ethernet, DDR, you're a shoe in. Verification, Validation, Design, Customer Applications, Firmware, you name it, we need it. The pay is good too, especially for people who got in a year ago or more, stock base compensation has…

If you guys are hiring, I am interested. My email and personal website are in my profile. Thanks!

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#288
I’ve 12 years of official experience and it took me 8 months to find a job. I’ve been also writing about huge problems in the western Europe IT job market - hiring has almost plateaued here. So the trick was to search for a job in the eastern Europe, moving soon.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#289
post #233

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I'm unconvinced that car mechanic pay is anywhere near programming but either way I'd say you have a pretty select and valuable skill set if you know cars and computers, given how computerised modern cars are.

Maybe 10 years ago. Now you have to fight 300 other applicants for an entry position that pays $50k in NYC. The biggest thing for me that pushed me over the edge was thinking, how will I get a mortgage? All this applying, 100s of applications, even if I land a job it's not stable. Maybe it pays more, but I'll be laid off in a year or 2. Then back to 100s of applications while my mortgage is ticking away. I have a fri…

That's really inconsistent with my experience. Are you a game dev maybe? I can believe it for them. Or maybe a web dev. I think if you do anything a bit more technical and "boring" like firmware development or data engineering there's tons of highly paid work, at least in the UK (which has lower salaries than the US for skilled work).

> Everything in a car is modular. If it doesn't work, you replace it.

Doesn't it require some skill diagnosing what isn't working using CAN tools? Plus there's all the coding of parts now. I guess to be fair, you're kind of limited by what tools the manufacturers are willing to sell you and it's probably difficult to go outside that unless you are a university level researcher.

Re: Jobs and Software Is Fucked

#290
post #7

Curious about the perspective from anyone who has a skill set / reputation where finding jobs is easy right now. I imagine people in ML or who've found a good way to demonstrate prowess with agentic systems may be highly in demand right now(?)

I'm a new grad. It took me about three weeks to get two offers, both from cold applications. I applied to ~100 jobs in total and got first round interviews from 10% of the ones I cold applied to, much higher when I had an in.

I then, uh, turned both offers down because I thought the roles weren't interesting enough and didn't pay enough to make up for not being interesting (170k base). Now I am back in the process and, knock on wood, I am in the middle of final rounds with several companies and expect to have a much better offer by next week.

I have a background in ML and agentic systems, which did come up, but my resume isn't outstanding. No big tech or frontier lab internships, no published papers, no unicorn startup. I wouldn't say finding jobs has been easy, but it hasn't been remotely as difficult as this thread implies, and I believe the statistics back me up here. I suspect this is a "people who aren't struggling don't complain about it online" phenomenon.

Regardless, I wish everyone here best of luck in finding a job.

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