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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

#283

Post by [deleted] »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256
Krysoph wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is formatted as code. https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc crimes ↑ │ 10.0 ┤ ● Airport burger │ ╭──────────────╮ 8.0 ┤ │ theft arc │ │ ╰──────────────╯ 6.0 ┤ ● Five Guys │ 4.0 ┤ ● Food truck burger │ 2.0 ┤ ● McBurger │ 0.0 ┤ ● Homemade burger │ └───────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────┬─────────→ price $2 $8 $14 $22 $38 ┌────────────────────┬────────┬───…

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

Krysoph wrote: post #269
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, so in this case the value of "code fomatting" is using a fixed-width font ? The next question is where did the "ASCII-art" graph and table come from? Are there sites to generate these?

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Neat!

If I use your tool and "Copy HN-ready" and paste here then it works, but oddly if I then edit the post the formatting is lost.

Also, if I just manually post, starting with a blank line, followed by a couple of lines starting with two spaces (e.g. " aaa", " bbb"), then I'm not getting the 

 code formatting. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by RussianCow »

ignoramous wrote: post #237
papascrubs wrote: post #168

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Are you purchasing directly from DeepSeek? Any concerns as far as privacy or data protection?

> Any concerns as far as privacy or data protection? We moved to OpenCode Go ($10/mo), so we could switch between DeepSeek v4, GLM 5.1, and Qwen 3.7 models run by providers in EU, US, & Singapore that OpenCode FAQ claims don't use retained data for training. What about data and privacy? The [OpenCode Go] plan is designed primarily for international users, with models hosted in the US, EU, and Singapore for stable glo…

> Qwen 3.7 models run by providers in EU, US, & Singapore that OpenCode FAQ claims don't use retained data for training.

Note: Alibaba Cloud is the only company that currently offers Qwen 3.7 models (they haven't released any open weight versions yet), and according to OpenRouter, they retain prompts for an unknown period. So they might not explicitly use your data for training, but they do store it indefinitely on their servers and can potentially[0] use it for all sorts of other purposes.

[0]: Disclaimer: I haven't read their privacy policy. Just pointing out that it's not so simple.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by Krysoph »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #284
Krysoph wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[dead]

Neat! If I use your tool and "Copy HN-ready" and paste here then it works, but oddly if I then edit the post the formatting is lost. Also, if I just manually post, starting with a blank line, followed by a couple of lines starting with two spaces (e.g. " aaa", " bbb"), then I'm not getting the code formatting. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

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  I think HN strips starting blank lines,
  but it may work when done after a line with some char like: .
edit test:

         0 ┤ ╭───╮ Homer made burger
           │ │ ● │ ╭───╮ McBurger
         2 ┤ ╰───╯ │ ○ │  ╭─────╮
           │       ╰───╯  │  *  │ Food truck burger
         4 ┤              ╰─────╯
           │
           │                         ╭─────╮
         6 ┤                         │  ■  │ this was edited btw
           │                         ╰─────╯                   ╭─────╮
         8 ┤                                   Hairport burger │  ▲  │
           │                                                   ╰─────╯
        10 └┬────────────┬───────────┬────────────┬───────────┬────────────┬
           $0           $8          $16          $24         $32          $40
Works fine for me, even after multiple edits the formatting stays the same ¯\(ツ)/¯

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #284
Krysoph wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[dead]

Neat! If I use your tool and "Copy HN-ready" and paste here then it works, but oddly if I then edit the post the formatting is lost. Also, if I just manually post, starting with a blank line, followed by a couple of lines starting with two spaces (e.g. " aaa", " bbb"), then I'm not getting the code formatting. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

foo

  aa
  bb

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

Krysoph wrote: post #286
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neat! If I use your tool and "Copy HN-ready" and paste here then it works, but oddly if I then edit the post the formatting is lost. Also, if I just manually post, starting with a blank line, followed by a couple of lines starting with two spaces (e.g. " aaa", " bbb"), then I'm not getting the code formatting. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

. I think HN strips starting blank lines, but it may work when done after a line with some char like: . edit test: 0 ┤ ╭───╮ Homer made burger │ │ ● │ ╭───╮ McBurger 2 ┤ ╰───╯ │ ○ │ ╭─────╮ │ ╰───╯ │ * │ Food truck burger 4 ┤ ╰─────╯ │ │ ╭─────╮ 6 ┤ │ ■ │ this was edited btw │ ╰─────╯ ╭─────╮ 8 ┤ Hairport burger │ ▲ │ │ ╰─────╯ 10 └┬────────────┬───────────┬────────────┬───────────┬────────────┬ $0 $8 $16 $24 $32 $40…

Thanks - it was HN stripping starting blank lines (incl. after an edit).

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by dabockster »

davecitron wrote: post #211
camelmel wrote: post #43

Huh, according to that model card this is a 137B total parameter model. Performance doesn't seem that good: - MAI-Code-1-Flash (137B-A5B) = 51% on SWE-bench pro - Qwen3.6-35B-A3B = 49.5% on SWE-bench pro ( https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B ) They benchmark against Claude Haiku but Haiku is not good, it's worse than tiny open models you can run locally or via API at 10% the cost.

Dave Citron here, from the MAI team. Thanks for the feedback, we're getting the model card updated to call out 5B active parameters (137B total). On benchmarks: in the same VS Code harness, MAI-Code-1-Flash scored 51.2% on SWE-bench Pro vs. Haiku's 35.2% which we see as a pretty big leap. But going forward, we'll include additional models in our benchmarks, including models like Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4.

Qwen HAS to be a part of the discussion here, even though Microsoft is a US based entity. Their 30b MoE models absolutely hit way above their weight when paired with the right harness program, and can be ran on "Costco gaming computer" specs when configured correctly in llama.cpp.

Sorry Trump Administration, but while the US has been downloading more ram by throwing data centers at everything and burning up everyone's power and water, China has come out with what's effectively a prototype edge compute capable AI model - regardless of how they built it. And arguably I can tokenmaxx on it just fine at around 30-40 tokens/sec.

And also, ASICs are on the way. Imagine one of those with a heavy hitting model (MoE or otherwise, Qwen or otherwise) installed in a PCIe slot at 10k+ tokens/sec and 75 watts max (maximum wattage deliverable by the PCIe slot alone) for $300-400 USD each.

https://taalas.com/the-path-to-ubiquitous-ai/

ASIC demo here: https://chatjimmy.ai/

Sorry/not sorry to rip this whole thing to shreds. But I'm sick and tired of these inefficient LLMs being produced that seemingly can only be offered by subscription from a data center, when I'm running a full AI stack right now (model and all) on my computer at home on a 750 watt max power supply. Microsoft really needs to get with the picture here and compete more with Qwen instead of just the US/EU entities.

Sincerely, your neighbor down in Tacoma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9jlo4Ht2YA&t=229s

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Post by SwellJoe »

SyneRyder wrote: post #266
SwellJoe wrote: post #158

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I've been doing benchmarking of various models for finding hard security bugs, and my faith in Haiku (and Sonnet, even) has dropped precipitously in the process. Self-hosted Qwen 3.6 27B consistently outperforms both for finding security bugs, which was a shocking result. I expected Qwen to be around Haiku level, maybe a little worse, and I definitely expected it to be worse than Sonnet. And, DeepSeek and MiMo perfor…

I don't suppose you've had a chance to benchmark MiniMax V3 yet? I've only just started testing other models after being an Anthropic fan. I haven't put MiniMax V3 to coding tasks yet, but something about my early simple tests has impressed me. The MiniMax API pricing is about 7% of Anthropic API prices (about matching Anthropic's subscription pricing).

I haven't, but, probably will add it to the benchmark soon.
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