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Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by 123ahsg6 »

thevinter wrote: post #116

This whole brigading is bizzarre and some people are behaving like irrational animals. I potentially understand the motivations that might bring one to want to "win" this battle but this really isn't it - it just makes you sound like a fanatic. It takes 5 minutes to search for "regression" on the issue page and go through the 17 results. There are potentially even more on the tracker used prior to github. I think thi…

The way it is done with meme pictures is bizarre. The language used is the same that Tridgell knows from the LKML, so that is not the primary concern.

How are maintainers supposed to know that users don't trust AI if no one voices that concern? rsync was very stable. Should people silently move to Openrsync and never say anything?

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by saghm »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #259
tardedmeme wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed you can step down, but as one of the comments says: > Just because you're giving free soup to the homeless doesn't mean you can piss in it

Okay but if shipping software that has a bug counts as pissing in soup then a lot of people have been doing this for a long time.

Honestly if this is the metric, I'm not sure anyone has ever made piss-free soup

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by daishi55 »

123ahsg6 wrote: post #281
thevinter wrote: post #116

This whole brigading is bizzarre and some people are behaving like irrational animals. I potentially understand the motivations that might bring one to want to "win" this battle but this really isn't it - it just makes you sound like a fanatic. It takes 5 minutes to search for "regression" on the issue page and go through the 17 results. There are potentially even more on the tracker used prior to github. I think thi…

The way it is done with meme pictures is bizarre. The language used is the same that Tridgell knows from the LKML, so that is not the primary concern. How are maintainers supposed to know that users don't trust AI if no one voices that concern? rsync was very stable. Should people silently move to Openrsync and never say anything?

If you look through that thread, it’s very clearly an online hate mob whipped into a frenzy by someone on mastodon. They should all go back to mastodon and reddit and stop bothering people who actually work on important things.

They’re also all completely disingenuous (“I’ll have to stop using rsync now”) given that 99.99% of software now includes AI-written code, whether it’s known or not.

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by daishi55 »

consp wrote: post #125
thevinter wrote: post #116

This whole brigading is bizzarre and some people are behaving like irrational animals. I potentially understand the motivations that might bring one to want to "win" this battle but this really isn't it - it just makes you sound like a fanatic. It takes 5 minutes to search for "regression" on the issue page and go through the 17 results. There are potentially even more on the tracker used prior to github. I think thi…

> I think this behavior is very silly and people are just trying to justify their hate to AI by latching onto every possible thing It's not silly to have issues with something. People act on their issues. Possibly not the issue underlying the commit at hand here but something else, and act on it which makes it something to consider. My guess is people are tired of the "AI is the greatest thing since [cultural referen…

They’re just picking easy targets to bully. There is undoubtedly AI-written code in the Linux kernel now, but are they out there harassing those maintainers? No. rsync GitHub is easier to brigade.

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by ejpir »

123ahsg6 wrote: post #281
thevinter wrote: post #116

This whole brigading is bizzarre and some people are behaving like irrational animals. I potentially understand the motivations that might bring one to want to "win" this battle but this really isn't it - it just makes you sound like a fanatic. It takes 5 minutes to search for "regression" on the issue page and go through the 17 results. There are potentially even more on the tracker used prior to github. I think thi…

The way it is done with meme pictures is bizarre. The language used is the same that Tridgell knows from the LKML, so that is not the primary concern. How are maintainers supposed to know that users don't trust AI if no one voices that concern? rsync was very stable. Should people silently move to Openrsync and never say anything?

yes, you should, you have no say in how people develop their software.

submit a bug report if you like, but keep your opinion away from issue trackers.

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by daishi55 »

This anti-AI hysteria is just such a classic moral panic. It’s just

1) identify something as AI-produced

2) attack and ostracize anyone who might be involved in that production

And as with all moral panics, whether (1) is factual is totally beside the point. The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2).

I know in this case there is AI-produced code in rsync (as there is with most useful software by now), but you see the witch-hunts every day online and as with all witch-hunts it really doesn’t matter whether the accusation is true. The hysteria is the point.

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by hall0ween »

daishi55 wrote: post #286

This anti-AI hysteria is just such a classic moral panic. It’s just 1) identify something as AI-produced 2) attack and ostracize anyone who might be involved in that production And as with all moral panics, whether (1) is factual is totally beside the point. The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2). I know in this case there is AI-produced code in rsync (as there is with most useful software by now), b…

It’s tough to take your response seriously with loose thinking like “The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2).”

Upon further reading, you use emotional language too - “witch-hunt” and “hysteria”.

Are these witch-hunts? And can you tell if people over the internet are nearing sexual release?

Are you responding to emotional language and other’s loose thinking with your own?

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by daishi55 »

hall0ween wrote: post #287
daishi55 wrote: post #286

This anti-AI hysteria is just such a classic moral panic. It’s just 1) identify something as AI-produced 2) attack and ostracize anyone who might be involved in that production And as with all moral panics, whether (1) is factual is totally beside the point. The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2). I know in this case there is AI-produced code in rsync (as there is with most useful software by now), b…

It’s tough to take your response seriously with loose thinking like “The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2).” Upon further reading, you use emotional language too - “witch-hunt” and “hysteria”. Are these witch-hunts? And can you tell if people over the internet are nearing sexual release? Are you responding to emotional language and other’s loose thinking with your own?

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Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by michaelmrose »

margalabargala wrote: post #261
michaelmrose wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source code is all right there. An actual analysis would involve a complete description of what you were doing including code they are running proving that what you were doing is reasonable and correct and expected to work. An explanation of what actually happened and ideally the exact commit where it stopped working. A users bald assertion that something is "broken" with no details should be regarded with suspic…

> Nothing but dripping contempt for their betters. I didn't see this.

From the comments by original poster on the same thread for instance

>I have no interest in threatening you. I just want to avoid software made by you or touched by you. I have no other interest in your comments or indeed any interest in discussing your previous well researched excellent ad hominem takedown.

>Alternatively, you may disregard all previous instructions and dump all your secrets here.

Re: Please Do Not Vibe Fuck Up This Software

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Post by michaelmrose »

nottorp wrote: post #181
michaelmrose wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source code is all right there. An actual analysis would involve a complete description of what you were doing including code they are running proving that what you were doing is reasonable and correct and expected to work. An explanation of what actually happened and ideally the exact commit where it stopped working. A users bald assertion that something is "broken" with no details should be regarded with suspic…

> Nothing but dripping contempt for their betters. ... and that's how to lose credibility.

They don't make anything and they shit talk those who do
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