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Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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I think we're going to see a ton of this in the coming years. A return to the 60s/70s when people were going off the grid, moving to a farm, or just disconnecting

Whether man belongs into the city or wilderness is a question as old as humanity. It was pondered 4,000 years ago in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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This really resonates. I'm a dev/sysadmin/whatever with 15+ years of experience and I've been seriously considering applying for a job at my local Tractor Supply.

I've been having trouble finding consistent work for the last year but was recently accepted into a recruitment network. Almost every posting on the network's job board is for AI/agentic bullshit (many of them in defense contexts) and I just can't bring myself to apply for any of them. I won't be able to fake the required enthusiasm. I've been through 4/5/6? hype cycles over the course of my career and I'm just over it all. Maybe the AI bubble will burst? Maybe it won't? Either way, it takes the fun out of what I've enjoyed doing -- even if it's because it's all anyone wants to talk about. Layer all of the surveillance* and age verification crap on top of that and ... I want off this train.

*Anecdote: I was a chaperone on an elementary school field tried yesterday and there were >8 cameras on the bus. This amount of surveillance and accompanying normalization of it hasn't prevented or even helped rectify multiple incidents my child has had while riding on school buses. So, all of the downsides and no upsides.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

#283

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I took it as rhetorical, not a literal call for violence. That said, I appreciate you noting their name as it gave me something to google/learn.

Regardless whether or not it was rhetorical, I found it off-putting, especially when the Amish (a far superior example of the point he is trying to convey) are mentioned in the same article.

If I were more -- or even at all -- versed in the geopolitics of the Andaman Islands, I may have found it more off-putting than I did. That's a fair enough point. If you're offended by this, that's understandable and I don't blame you.

What I was speaking about was more the claim that the author had veered into fanaticism. That doesn't seem true. He's working at Home Depot not becoming a hunter-gatherer let alone murdering anybody.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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post #93

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I don’t think is true - the endgame of software security is very secure atleast at the code level. I.e. fully clean supply chain, no memory safety issues, maybe even formally provable code. Right now we are in a very unstable place but it might not be permanent!

That's an optimistic take I haven't heard before, love the idea a lot. Wake me up when we get there though...

This end state isn’t guaranteed to be clear people need to go out and work on it.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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It is amusing and depressing to see so many people exit tech. I remember this happened in similar “vibes/strides around 08 and then for Covid, which ironically doubled down on remote work. And now for AI. It really paints a projection on how much time we all really have in this world and this segment of work. At best I wonder, do “I” have another 10 - 15 years left in tech? Do you? Agreed with the other comments on f…

The problem isn't tech, it's the management/executive layer behind the firehose of VC bullshit and the consultant class of MBAs allowing decision making without consequence. We need to step up and kick all of these idiots out of the industry - not step or shy away. They're expecting techies to be soft and not to confront them using word games. Be as elitist and forward as you need to survive - but I plan on spending…

You’re not wrong, but an MBA helped me understand management better and “bridge the gap” between tech and management.

There is often a disconnect between both sides.

While anyone can learn the language of business, an MBA helps in understand their side, by teaching how executives think, evaluate risk, and make decisions.

A respected MBA also provides credibility, making it easier to translate technical ideas into business outcomes and gain support from leadership, etc etc etc.

The real value isn’t the mba itself, but learning to operate in both worlds. There is so much gray and fun things to can do once you see and can communicate both sides.

Tech-management arbitrage. That layer you describe is just talking another language, that most people in tech just don’t know. They also control the money.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I retired, after 30-some years. Actually, I was forced to retire, by folks that don't think us greyheads should be working. Fortunately, I had the means to retire. Those means had nothing to do with a FIRE strategy. I just saved, lived humbly, and stayed at a job for a couple of decades. But I have been doubling down on my tech work. Once the knuckleheads were removed from the soup, the flavor improved markedly. I lo…

I will admit, when it came to brainstorming sources of crashes with threads, AI has helped me find sources I hadn't considered (as a systems guy, multi threading real experience is something I am sprinting through)

Basically, my app is a memory hog. I went all-in on performance, and neglected frugality. Lots of caches, local copies, and pass-by-value.

I suspect the best solution will be architectural, which promises to be a pain.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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Impressive to take such a stand, doing something they believe is the right thing. The home depot line says a lot though. I guess tech has been good enough to provide some kind of economic cushion that you can retain a reasonable life style as home depot as your only source of income. I would (genuinely) be interested in a follow up on how that works out for them. I've "threatened" to do this many times, but my partne…

>that you can retain a reasonable life style as home depot as your only source of income.

that's pretty presumptuous I think. He says in the piece he is an Orthodox Christian who wants to build a offline community in Pennsylvania where he lives. The average salary at HD is 70k, that's the household income in the state.

I know a bunch of Orthodox folks in the US and their idea of a reasonable lifestyle doesn't include two Teslas and three holidays, they do just fine on less than that without a tech cushion.

It does seem a bit tiring to me whenever seeing articles about people moving out of tech that some people seem convinced they cannot live 'reasonable lives' without earning more than 95% of the population.

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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post #273

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Yes it is. You don't need to announce whether you are using AI or not. Just keep doing your job, use AI when it pleases you and keep building manual code when you think that's better. That's what I do, I have never been asked if I use AI to write my code. If it's dumb code I use AI. If it's something that I want to craft I don't

Where I work % of code written by AI and AI spend is tracked all the way down to the individual person. It is obvious to me that this will be used in performance reviews in the future.

That's so stupid. Let the agent write code that will never be used then and you focus on the important code

Re: I am retiring from tech to live offline

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post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it is. You don't need to announce whether you are using AI or not. Just keep doing your job, use AI when it pleases you and keep building manual code when you think that's better. That's what I do, I have never been asked if I use AI to write my code. If it's dumb code I use AI. If it's something that I want to craft I don't

Where I work % of code written by AI and AI spend is tracked all the way down to the individual person. It is obvious to me that this will be used in performance reviews in the future.

Garbage like this is why the tech industry desperately needs widespread unionization.
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