I can't wait for China to start shipping hardware. I will vote with my wallet and have a chinese GPU, RAM and device. Hell, I would be using a Xiaomi phone right this second if this government didn't block it.
Not going to happen. Chinese RAM/GPU will be sold exclusively to Chinese market.
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I don't want to live in a society where RAM inflation is higher and food inflation. Future generations will ask me where were you when Computer prices were rising, internet bandwidth was rationed and people had to wait overnight to continue vibe coding because vendors blocked further API calls for many hours at a time.
> people had to wait overnight to continue vibe coding because vendors blocked further API calls for many hours at a time Tangential but this is funny. Back in the early 90s, I did a lot of BASIC programming in the family computer, this was before we had Internet. I could spend hours.and hours in front of the computer doing stuff. Fast forward to around 2010 I remember a distinct feeling one time the internet went of…
It isn't just a psychological feeling though. We've (unnecessarily) offloaded everything to the net, so there's a very real element of uselessness that kicks in when there's no connection.
E.g. back when you were coding BASIC, you probably had magazines and either ended up copying a lot of code by hand, or if you were lucky the mag came with a floppy disk. Now no such magazines exist. Manpages were all local, now it's readthedocs online. Fat local-friendly standard libraries in almost all languages have been modularised and package managers for the most part expect to install stuff by fetching it from the net.
So unless you have heavily prepared for the cyberapocalypse or sth, there really is not much you can do on your machine when the internet goes down.
On the other hand, however, when you can prepare in advance, it's great to shut off the net for a while. I do my most productive coding during flights, for example.
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> Should I take this as you volunteering your livelihood? Otherwise this comment rings incredibly hollow. It's very easy to say others should sacrifice what they've worked their whole life for, but it's not so easy to give it up yourself. If you truly believe it's worth it, though, you should be eager to do so. Well yes, I'm not immune to potential displacement, I don't know where did you get it that I'm somehow in s…
Go ahead and quit your job then, if it's worth it. It's for the greater good, after all, and you're more than ok with it.
People losing jobs is price we pay for progress, not goal in itself. I'm really surprised I have to point it out. Hence me quitting my job will have zero positive impact. Programmers for years have automated other jobs and suddenly when their work is in danger somehow automation becomes bad.
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What value do they get that both couldn't be done before and outweighs the costs?
Personalized learning. Some people on the US were paying over six figures to be educated and now they can do it at a much better quality for free.
You don’t pay for the insight, you pay for the certificate. If the AI doesn’t give you a degree, it doesn’t really help you. Even before AI, you could have learned stuff from a degree for free.
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Not going to happen. Chinese RAM/GPU will be sold exclusively to Chinese market.
Well: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/chinese-memo... https://www.reddit.com/r/RigBuild/comments/1tlweca/chinese_m...
The Corsair kit you linked there is indeed only sold in China.
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> don't think it's a societal problem; it's just the direct result of our society's economic model.
Recently I had the realization that a lot of people see economy as something completely decoupled from society. Capitalism is both completely unrelated with people and the result of people's innate desires. The UBS discussions are a funny one for me. Capitalism is supposedly the best way to manage limited resources, but we would still need it in a supposed utopia where recourses are in abundance. I confess that I don…
> I confess that I don't have the knowledge to understand the reasons for that.
You want the technical, mathematical, reason for that? The short version is that for society as a whole, prices are information. How many fields should be filled with grain plants? How many with flowers? How many factories should make cars? Phones? Tv furniture? How much fuel goes to heating? How much to transporting old people to the hospital and back?
I hope that can explain, if "society" gets that information more than a tiny bit wrong ... very bad things will happen. VERY bad things. People will die, lots of them, and quickly, if you get it wrong.
I hope it also makes it clear that for society as a whole, money isn't a "real" limit. Rather it's a tool that makes the actual limits clear. If we make 50% more bread, how do we make that not affect how many heart surgeries can be done?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem
Capitalism has many advantages, the strongest of which, in my opinion, is that it simply imposes a cost on lying. You can lie about production, about prices, but it'll cost you. It is resilient against the bane of so many other systems: it is extremely resilient against people trying to sabotage it, because everyone has an incentive to undo or bypass sabotage. In other systems like communism or slavery the people doing work have an extreme incentive to lie, and the only break on that is violence against workers. But the state fundamentally has no idea if you're lying or not, so that violence will be mostly random. It can't be directed against the people actually causing problems in society.
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We're already in a shortage (of RAM). Price increases should be a motivator to increase production. This is the system working.
Will there be increase in production if the 3 companies that make the RAM decide they can profit more by keeping production mostly the same and flogging it for 10x the price of a couple of years ago to a few AI companies happy to burn cash? The only hope is China spoils the party.
China spoiling the party is still the system working though. The price of ram is so high that it makes sense for new producers to start to exist. The fact that all the ram in the world comes from 3 suppliers is a big problem, and the high prices are a forcing function for solving that problem
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Cheap used electric cars.
No such thing, unless you don't value privacy and being raped by technology.
I have an electric that I can buy cheap used parts for and it doesn't have any telemetry since it's radio is 3g. And if I really want to make sure I could disable the radio and wouldn't notice a thing.