Live data from Hacker News

At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

stateofsurveillance.org

281–290 of 373 posts

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#282
You're already on maybe 10 cameras any time you go outside. This number will keep doubling several times.

Like it or not, this technology is way too useful for too many purposes to be stopped.

This is case for finding "the serenity to accept the things I cannot change".

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is virtually impossible to build. Not just because all current "AI detector" systems are fake or outright scams with accuracy comparable to a coin-flip on frontier model output, but because even if someone did build a reliable detector and released it to the public, it could be used for adversarial training and it would become worthless pretty fast.

Pangram is legit. I don't work at pangram, we integrated it in our paper website and one of the cool emergent behaviors I've seen is that on AI papers with example rollouts, it will accurately mark the paper's main text as human generated and the rollouts as AI generated. My understanding is that they strongly believe in no false positives, so it's definitely possible to slip something by them but if it marks somethi…

> My understanding is that they strongly believe in no false positives

Who cares what they "believe" (or, more accurately, say they believe). What are the underlying processes that actually guarantee this, and what data supports it?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#284
post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that part of the insight is that many people reading this story may want it to be true as stated. All the upvotes and it's propagation in networks may lossily lay this claim (of course debatable) The beauty of surveillance is that it mutes the ability to cover the distance between desire and action. Which is another way to state "it has a chilling effect" As I understand, part of any story being shared is that…

And yet, the death penalty, doesn't seem to have muted murder.

That's not really the contradiction you seem to be implying. The belief that one is being watched and the knowledge that if caught there will be extremely high consequences are two completely different things, not to mention that the chilling effects of surveillance may impact a mostly different set of criminal and non-criminal behaviors.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#286
post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that part of the insight is that many people reading this story may want it to be true as stated. All the upvotes and it's propagation in networks may lossily lay this claim (of course debatable) The beauty of surveillance is that it mutes the ability to cover the distance between desire and action. Which is another way to state "it has a chilling effect" As I understand, part of any story being shared is that…

And yet, the death penalty, doesn't seem to have muted murder.

It seems like it takes a rational mind to be muted. It seems like most murders are committed irrationally.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed cameras or not, what you described will always happen. I would prefer no evil instead of a tiny evil however.

Likely yea, but with them at least some idiots too stupid to drive get some degree of punishment.

I don’t believe the juice (some speeding tickets) is worth the squeeze (surveillance dragnet covering the country).

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#288
post #90

[flagged]

The kind most representative of what it means to be American, who deserve the idea of America.

Do Native Americans deserve the 'idea of America'?

Is it possible to represent 'what it means to be American', if a person is not actually American, but their great-great-grandfather was?

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Civil disobedience and non-violent (towards people) destruction of invasive technology is the only outlet left for most people, I would argue. The money and power is so incredibly lopsided that 'traditional' routes of impacting City, county, or state/national practices are closed to most of us. This is just my thought with nothing to back it up, but I believe it's valid. I also believe we'll see widespread actions of…

Just wait until they start burning down all the datacenters after AI takes all the jobs.

"AI taking all the jobs" is going to result in some tech companies going down like the Titanic.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#290
post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least part of it is that we do attribute malice or lack of care (or madness) to people who repeatedly do it, and treat their output differently in the future. For some reason, some people repeatedly defend machines that constantly do the same thing, and claim we should give it the benefit of the doubt.

Why give anyone benefit of doubt when you're just trying to extract true information. If a person BSs you, you don't believe them in the future either. Giving BS the benefit of doubt isn't serving anyone. Giving intent benefit of doubt makes sense, but intent isn't important when it comes to technical information and lying about it

[deleted]
Post reply on HN