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Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

nerdsniper wrote: post #193
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. It's for founders who don't have lawyers. My co-founder and I are both developers, we used Stripe Atlas to incorporate a C-Corp due to expecting to fundraise ------- I said we made a C-Corp but other founders should default to LLC, which Stripe Atlas can also streamline. An LLC is superior to C-Corp in pretty much every way for any pre-raise founders who don't have an extra…

Yes unless you have a very very very good reason it's always best to just file a basic LLC in the state you are a resident of. Only costs a few hundred dollars at most and doesn't really complicate taxes

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by swyx »

faangguyindia wrote: post #29

One of the well-kept secrets about Cloudflare is: You can have a zero-cost inbox. Earlier, I was using Zoho and FastMail (however you dice it, it will use some money, $12 a year for Zoho and $7 per month for FastMail? Even then, perhaps you only get one mailbox and some aliases) but with this method, I get unlimited aliases, domains, and mailboxes: Now, I wrote a script which captures the email and saves attachments…

are you anti gmail? you are a rarity lol.

also share your scripts pls?

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by jensensbutton »

neom wrote: post #243
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I challenge you to explain a business plan for a fully automated business that isn't at least a bit shady.

Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. Doing it yourself (at least in Canada) means creating accounts on a bunch of platforms, and the process…

> I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms.

If this can be fully automated then you can just ask your own agent to do this and wouldn't need a business for it. And agents can already fill out web forms just fine.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #219
adamas wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, Cloudflare was always kind of scary. They filter the world wide web, literally.

Yea, I appreciate them protecting it from DDOS. I always viewed them as a responsible company. To me this feels irresponsible and like it's main goal is to forward autonomous cyber attacks. Which is antithetical to what they do? Maybe I am missing the legitimate use case here, but I can only see this being used for removing responsibility from crime or espionage? Does anyone know offhand if cloudflare is a department…

Their TLS proxy is an open invitation to be backdoored on the unencrypted side even if they don't officially coordinate.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by neom »

jensensbutton wrote: post #283
neom wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. Doing it yourself (at least in Canada) means creating accounts on a bunch of platforms, and the process…

> I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. If this can be fully automated then you can just ask your own agent to do this and wouldn't need a business for it. And agents can already fill out web forms just fine.

Well like most rich guys, I have an assistant, so I don't need or use "agents" - maybe my assistant could learn to use "agents" - but her core competency isn't, nor should it be, learning to use AI agents in any meaningful way. Maybe she could outsource it to someone who got their agents to do it for her for $100.... Same with my little sister who has a 5 year old and a 2 year old and doesn't really know how a computer works never mind what AI agents are.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by zaidf »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

An entire generation of non developers are being onboarded to products built for developers because of AI. Exampl: a very non technical friend has built a bunch of business automations with Claude and a few days ago he just dropped in the conversation that he is using Cloudflare. “For what?” I asked because usually Claude will recommend Cercel before Cloudflare. But in this case, it recommended Cloudflare because of the Tunnels feature. Now he is using it for a lot more than Tunnels. Mostly just lets Claude use it whenever it makes sense.

“To what end?” was the default reaction when Amazon launched S3 in mid 2000s :)

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

fragmede wrote: post #58
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question was what's in the dots. I have no doubt that agentic systems are good enough to buy domains and make one-shot websites from a prompt, but what is the legitimate use case for which you'd want to repeatedly perform "Make a website that does..." on a new domain?

"Legitimate"? What scams are you implying are happening? A friend of mine wanted a site to help him sell DJ lessons. Another friend has a haircutting business that wanted a better site. Massage therapy. Etc.

One obvious scam, for example, would be someone trying to perform some reputation-destroying action and laundering domains to do so. Another might be creating a bunch of SEO slop domains to try and farm ad revenue on various topics with AI content; Google seems to be doing better at downranking those but I'm sure it's still a thing.

I suppose it's possible that someone's just running a charity Wordpress-like operation for their friends who all want websites.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #284
2ndorderthought wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, I appreciate them protecting it from DDOS. I always viewed them as a responsible company. To me this feels irresponsible and like it's main goal is to forward autonomous cyber attacks. Which is antithetical to what they do? Maybe I am missing the legitimate use case here, but I can only see this being used for removing responsibility from crime or espionage? Does anyone know offhand if cloudflare is a department…

Their TLS proxy is an open invitation to be backdoored on the unencrypted side even if they don't officially coordinate.

I never thought about that, but yes I would be weary of that as well.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by zeroq »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

It's not about concrete examples.

Seasoned, well trained engineers have created hundreds of thousands in billing on AWS through a simple mistakes overnight.

It's immediately reminds me of putting microtransactions into children games on mobile devices - a venue that has been thoroughly explored some 10-15 years ago.

I can't see payment and provisioning as a blocker in any scenario.

This has a potential to create a massive yet very dubious income stream for the company.

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