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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by Matl »

lostdog wrote: post #272
Matl wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US assisted a genocide, literally kidnapped the president of a sovereign country so it could take its oil, threatened its own allies with invasion and started a war of aggression against another so that it can take their oil, all in a span of a few months. But tell me more.

Yes, if you just list 3 more problems about the US then it means that China has no problems at all.

No it means that perhaps the US should finally start looking at itself instead of just asserting that it doesn't need to because China.

That doesn't mean China should not be criticized. But to me it's clear that the China blame game is not about a genuine concern for Chinese people or its neighbors, it's about trying to keep it down because China should never dared to rise in the first place.

Anglo Saxons and maybe the French should be in charge and the rest should be resource colonies. It very much feels like that Western mentality is still there.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by Matl »

SJMG wrote: post #257
Matl wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> USA data protection protects data of US citizens only, foreigners data is not protected HN is an American site. If you look at the US government, it is going to fearmonger about anything China related, because they haven't had a genuine competitor for decades and they're scared and lashing out. Most US news just parrot the government line, sometimes more so than state TV would, and so it reflects here. I also feel…

> also feel comfortable saying that many Americans don't care one bit what happens to foreigners, be it by action of their government or companies What's the point of this kind of statement for you? Does this help you understand others or just continue to drive the wedge in? Where are you from? Ask yourself can the statement, "many {of my country} don't care one bit what happens to foreigners, be it by action of the…

I am from Europe. I feel comfortable saying that many in Europe do not care about what their governments or companies do to foreigners, (at least not enough to inform themselves about it).

However looking at the polls in the US gives you a fairly decent idea that there's a decent chunk of people that seem to get off on violence towards non-Americans. Why do you think ICE went with the violent tactics it did?

As to

> What's the point of this kind of statement for you? Does this help you understand others or just continue to drive the wedge in?

The point is to maybe make some Americans ask what it is that they can do to reform the government they have the most direct influence over (their own) instead of trying to reassure themselves that theirs is still better than country's X.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by eloisant »

vitaflo wrote: post #13

I'm not exactly sure what the point of this is. Deepseek already has instructions to use its API with many CLI's including Claude Code directly: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/agent_integrations...

Also Claude Code is one of the worse CLI, the only good thing is that it's the default for Claude.

I don't see why anyone would want to use it for any other model than Claude instead of OpenCode or Pi.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by beedeebeedee »

Matl wrote: post #281
lostdog wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if you just list 3 more problems about the US then it means that China has no problems at all.

No it means that perhaps the US should finally start looking at itself instead of just asserting that it doesn't need to because China. That doesn't mean China should not be criticized. But to me it's clear that the China blame game is not about a genuine concern for Chinese people or its neighbors, it's about trying to keep it down because China should never dared to rise in the first place. Anglo Saxons and maybe t…

> No it means that perhaps the US should finally start looking at itself instead of just asserting that it doesn't need to because China.

Agreed, the US definitely needs to do some introspection to sort out its own shit (and stop spraying it on everyone else).

However, that does not mean that China gets a pass. Fundamentally, the Chinese model of governance does not protect the individual. For all its faults, the US model is based upon the idea of individual liberty, which acts as a touchstone and allows it to self-correct whenever it goes to far in the wrong direction. That's something the Chinese model does not do, and means that, short of a revolution, it will continue to be an authoritarian state with all of the malignant features that entails.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by eloisant »

CharlesW wrote: post #64
Aeroi wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

agreed. OpenCode is a strong base, and with a couple modifications it can become a very effective harness. my sideproject mouse.dev I’ve been combining parts from OpenCode, Claude Code, and Hermes to build a cloud agent architecture that works well from mobile.

> OpenCode is a strong base, and with a couple modifications it can become a very effective harness. I personally didn't find it to be competitve with Claude Code as a harness. Can I ask how you modified it to perform better?

What issues do you have with OpenCode?

Personally I use it for the TUI, it's way better than Claude Code's one.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by eloisant »

column wrote: post #178
izietto wrote: post #175

Just want to say that I faced this very problem the last week, I discovered OpenCode agent and it works great, with DeepSeek and other models. Try it out guys.

Pi will blow your mind :)

I've tried both, I prefer OpenCode. I get that Pi is more customizable but I prefer a nice, complete out-of-the-box experience and that's what OpenCode provides.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by KronisLV »

aftbit wrote: post #21

#!/bin/sh export ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL=https://api.deepseek.com/anthropic export ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN=sk-secret export ANTHROPIC_MODEL=deepseek-v4-flash export CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_NONESSENTIAL_TRAFFIC=1 exec claude $@

Wonder if there's a way to launch the desktop Claude app like that, especially on Windows, not just the Claude Code TUI/CLI. Might not be possible and you'd just have to use --remote as a workaround.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by Matl »

beedeebeedee wrote: post #284
Matl wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it means that perhaps the US should finally start looking at itself instead of just asserting that it doesn't need to because China. That doesn't mean China should not be criticized. But to me it's clear that the China blame game is not about a genuine concern for Chinese people or its neighbors, it's about trying to keep it down because China should never dared to rise in the first place. Anglo Saxons and maybe t…

> No it means that perhaps the US should finally start looking at itself instead of just asserting that it doesn't need to because China. Agreed, the US definitely needs to do some introspection to sort out its own shit (and stop spraying it on everyone else). However, that does not mean that China gets a pass. Fundamentally, the Chinese model of governance does not protect the individual. For all its faults, the US…

> Fundamentally, the Chinese model of governance does not protect the individual. For all its faults, the US model is based upon the idea of individual liberty

Look, am not here to defend the Chinese model but I find it interesting how convinced you seem that individualism is the right model for everyone.

While I would generally agree with you, I have spoken to many from poorer countries who say that they prefer to trade some individualism for a steady hand of economic development and lifting the population from poverty. That is the Chinese model.

These people would argue that they can reclaim more and more individual freedom as the country gets richer and more self confident.

I am not saying they are right, but looking at a nominal democracy like India and a nominal autocracy like China, I know which government works better as far as raising the living standards of its population and it's not the Indian one.

My hope is that China will continue to liberalize on its own. Forcing it will likely only reverse the gains.

Individualism also leads to the sort of healthcare system the US had or Skid Row. So it's not all roses.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by ryanlitalien »

Aeroi wrote: post #42
justech wrote: post #30

If you're looking for Claude Code alternatives, I would first suggest looking into pi.dev or opencode for your harness. And then for models, you can choose from OpenCode Go (IMO most cost effect at this moment), OpenRouter, or direct from DeepSeek. Better if you go the Kimi route IMO and just buy a subscription from kimi.com

agreed. OpenCode is a strong base, and with a couple modifications it can become a very effective harness. my sideproject mouse.dev I’ve been combining parts from OpenCode, Claude Code, and Hermes to build a cloud agent architecture that works well from mobile.

Kudos! Cool idea, I'm on the same path you are, yet you're just one step ahead. For mouse.dev, what are you using for the cloud agent sandbox piece? I haven't moved my agents to the cloud yet (for on the go mobile enablement). Would Islo be a competitor to mouse?

https://islo.dev/

https://www.incredibuild.com/blog/why-we-built-islo-ai-codin...

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