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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by Esophagus4 »

yankohr wrote: post #84

This feels like the modern version of 'Sent from my iPhone' but much more invasive. Git commits are legal and technical records. Falsifying who authored a piece of code just to pump up AI usage stats is a huge breach of trust and it is disappointing to see Microsoft prioritize branding over the integrity of the developer's log. I expect my IDE to record what happened, not what the marketing department wants people to…

And also those early Spotify days where Spotify would automatically post what you’re listening to to your Facebook wall.

I’ve always seen that practice of using the user as your recommendation lever without their consent as unethical.

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Post by quink »

And here I’m thinking that my text editor should have zero interaction with anything git other than as a diff viewer.

lazygit is text editor agnostic and works brilliantly to give some near perfect porcelain to git specifically. And it works the same with Ghostty, Terminal, zed, VS Code, any environment I happen to be in, while saving so many keystrokes.

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Post by pdpi »

estimator7292 wrote: post #211
makeitdouble wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> greed Is a greed/not greed scale really useful to discuss company behaviors ? I wanted to say I get what you mean, but even thinking about the company I root for the most, I can't think of a point where they're not driven by their desire to make a lot more money. If your point is that there's good and bad ways to seek money, I'm not sure it's properly encompassed by "greed", which I interpret as the intensity of a…

Approximately everybody would like more money. Greedy people put the desire for more money above the welfare of the business, themselves, and other. Greedy people literally put their desire for more personal wealth above the very lives of others. Greed/not greed is a very fair way of putting it. One can operate a business that requires profit without wanting to destroy everyone and everything that stands in the way o…

I think there's one more factor that is crucially important — greedy people lack long-term vision, and care a lot more about money now than they do about potentially much more money in the future.

I suppose it's kind of interesting that you could measure greed as an unusually high discount rate for the time value of money?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by cozzyd »

c0wb0yc0d3r wrote: post #173
cozzyd wrote: post #25

My newest yocto image mounts a 640K RO tmpfs on top of $HOME/.vscode-server to prevent people using VSCode from shitting all over the relatively small emmc.

Can you explain how this works? Doesn’t this also stop you from connecting to it over ssh via vs code?

Yes that's the point. If vscode didn't insist on installing potentially gigabytes of blobs then this wouldn't be necessary.

(I'm a vimmer anyway... And emacs is too bloated to fit too, conveniently.)

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Post by abustamam »

thiht wrote: post #265
artyom wrote: post #182

To everyone who bought the "developer-friendly" Microsoft of VSCode fame from a few years ago: this is what they forever did, and forever will do. This company has been pulling these tricks since the early 90s. If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself.

Ok but I’ve used VSCode for almost 10 years, got mad at this once, and disabled it instantly. This sucks, but maybe don’t overreact?

Just because you can opt out doesn't mean that they're not shitty for defaulting you to opt in.

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Post by artyom »

thiht wrote: post #265
artyom wrote: post #182

To everyone who bought the "developer-friendly" Microsoft of VSCode fame from a few years ago: this is what they forever did, and forever will do. This company has been pulling these tricks since the early 90s. If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself.

Ok but I’ve used VSCode for almost 10 years, got mad at this once, and disabled it instantly. This sucks, but maybe don’t overreact?

I'd like my tools to not have a time-bomb attached to them, no matter if it takes 10 years to explode.

And honestly I think this case is just a perpetually clueless manager getting over-joyous with vibecoding (to the point of being marveled at changing two lines of code without blowing everything up).

It's probably going to be reverted in the coming days. Which doesn't change the fact that it's a very Microsoft way of operating.

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Post by [deleted] »

thiht wrote: post #265
artyom wrote: post #182

To everyone who bought the "developer-friendly" Microsoft of VSCode fame from a few years ago: this is what they forever did, and forever will do. This company has been pulling these tricks since the early 90s. If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself.

Ok but I’ve used VSCode for almost 10 years, got mad at this once, and disabled it instantly. This sucks, but maybe don’t overreact?

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by xp84 »

storus wrote: post #133
rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

It's a complete takeover of technically incompetent management that feels like it can finally execute their ideas to the fullest instead of relying on those pesky swengs with their obstructions, complaints and problems. We'll soon get the management utopia everywhere.

It wasn’t AI that brought us Apple’s gray on slightly-lighter-gray UI standards, nor the 10,000,000 ••• menus that have infested every webapp in the past 10 years as an alternative to thoughtful UI design. We humans made everything shitty before we made AI.

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Post by Demiurge »

ninjalanternshk wrote: post #270
diego_sandoval wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. Mmm... I think I missed that part.

Before 2010 or so, “serious” internet developers wouldn’t touch Microsoft stuff — Microsoft was for office memos and poorly structured spreadsheets and that was it. So yeah, Azure being a real option at the highest levels of internet-scale operations is a turnaround from where they were.

That’s not an accurate take. Microsoft has had a monopoly on the PC desktop OS. Anyone writing applications for users was targeting Windows and using Microsoft. To call most of these developers “not serious” is quite and overstatement. This includes all PC game developers, DAW, CAD, Adobe…?

Azure expanded the Microsoft franchise, and provides another prong to their whole integration story just like cloud AD services and online Office 365 provide another way to stay integrated into their ecosystem.

Yeah, they needed to work on their image somewhat, but their image never negatively impacted them

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