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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by nozzlegear »

skeledrew wrote: post #246
barumrho wrote: post #55

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Siri doesn't need to have conversations with you. ChatGPT can do that. But, it should be able to do actions you'd do on your phone.

Pretty straight forward on Android at least to wire up a harness that talks to Tasker[0] or another full automation app. [0] https://tasker.joaoapps.com/

The iOS equivalent would be Shortcuts, which, while not as powerful as Tasker depending on the context, is an official Apple feature that most apps support. Claude and ChatGPT both have various Shortcuts hooks, including voice conversation.

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Post by sathomasga »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #125
fusslo wrote: post #5

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.

Well, that "different universe" includes the tech company that employs me. I like my universe better.

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Post by nozzlegear »

HereticLocke wrote: post #186
wenc wrote: post #44

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Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

I agree, ChatGPT voice mode is pretty impressive. Almost similar to Samantha in 'Her', laughably.

> Almost similar to Samantha in 'Her', laughably.

Things that Sam Altman would prefer people not say lol

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dwaite »

ryandrake wrote: post #135
tracerbulletx wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.

I think OP's comment comes from the "Think Different" mysticism that used to be around Apple. You'd think that if there was one company on the planet not embracing slop, it would be Apple, and the realization that it's not the case can be a bummer.

"slop" and "vibe coding" are derogatory terms about the level of effort - e.g. little to no human review of quality or accuracy, or accountability/concern related to the output.

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Post by nozzlegear »

acdha wrote: post #34
stefan_ wrote: post #13

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Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Feeling #blessed that I apparently have the exact same upper midwest accent they must've trained Siri on, because I've literally never had an issue with dictation or being misheard. And I use it a lot!

(It misunderstands my wife from California all the time, though.)

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Post by nozzlegear »

cachius wrote: post #242
barumrho wrote: post #55

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Siri doesn't need to have conversations with you. ChatGPT can do that. But, it should be able to do actions you'd do on your phone.

Speech to text should work. I regularly have to manually edit the transcribed input. The more special words the more frequent. Completely disregards the context of the current input, for example, on Hacker news might involve special technical and IT vocabulary.

> Completely disregards the context of the current input, for example, on Hacker news might involve special technical and IT vocabulary.

Does any voice assistant do this right now? Genuine question, I don't actually know. It sounds useful as long as it's not invasive.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by insane_dreamer »

stefan_ wrote: post #13
rustyhancock wrote: post #11

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Apple seems to purposefully have decided to sit out the arms race. Probably smart time to rent and not buy if they plan on buying in a downturn.

Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

in my experience voice recognition on Claude (using the iPhone app) isn't that great -- maybe even worse than Siri (I'm referring to voice transcription specifically, not the inference of course)

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Post by circuit10 »

ShyCodeGardener wrote: post #276
circuit10 wrote: post #119

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No matter how good the LLM features are, I just want to turn my lights on and off and check the time. A perfect LLM could maybe perform on par with a simple deterministic command system for these tasks, but not better. All an LLM does is introduce the possibility that a command that worked fine yesterday will randomly not work Also, one of my first interactions with this Alexa+ thing was “how long is it until 8:45am”…

> All an LLM does is introduce the possibility that a command that worked fine yesterday will randomly not work Aren't hallucinations part of GenAI? I would assume that "AI" voice recognition doesn't have that baked in, but I'm not working in either of those spaces so maybe I'm missing the details. So many things are being looped into the "AI" umbrella that would have just been called machine learning or pattern reco…

The point is Amazon is adding an “Alexa+” mode that uses LLMs. The plain voice recognition + keyword matching or however the old version works is more reliable (I assume, I didn’t use the new mode much because it immediately failed at what I wanted)

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

cachius wrote: post #249
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #108

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> that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience I've had enough bad experiences with products that never got better, or just got worse (Exhibit A: Windows 11). Like most primates, I am capable of learning, and I've learned that once a consumer product/service goes bad there's little hope of a turn-around. I accept that you're telling me that it's gotten better, but of the people I know IRL w…

The current photos app on Win 11 has accumulated a whopping one gigabyte of - what actually?

I don't run Windows 11 so I haven't taken a look, but I speculate it's because it contains a bunch of ML blobs for Windows Photo's image-classification and photo subject/contents keyword search.

On Windows 10, the Photos app package is about ~140MB on my computer. A good chunk of that is because the package includes a lot of dependencies - including platform deps that I'd expect would be part of the UWP runtime in the OS - kinda like how since the introduction of Swift/UIKit/etc in iOS the IPA packages all bundle their platform dependencies, even though they're demonstrably redundant, because UIKit isn't an OS-provided framework anymore... I'm not up-to-date in the iOS dev scene so I'm unsure why Apple went with that approach.

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