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If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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What's the best way to poison my repos to sabotage LLM training? Asking for a friend.

By migrating to another code forge and paying them so they're sustainable.

Which doesn't answer your question at all, but it is the metric they'll pay attention to. And it is the the thing that actually addresses the underlying problem.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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What are you referring to? I set this to "Disabled" months/years ago and it's retained the disabled setting.

So? You guarantee that this setting is durable and will never revert? Or you guarantee that no client-side bug on that page will not override the setting with null value when you click save on something else? Please.

Nope, none of these are things I said or implied. I was asking whether you were referring to it having reset already.

The chip on your shoulder doesn't make for productive conversation here.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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Jokes on them, my private repos are total dog dookie. If nobody but me can see the code then I don't have to worry about style, structure, comments, or any other best practices. You don't want an LLM trained on my private repos. Trust me.

Poisoning LLMs is an interesting path of resistance.

Well known running code has more weight than unknown code that may not run. I think it’s pointless.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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I don't like when people make sarcastic remarks and sign off in a way that indicates it was sarcasm. It kills it for me. Lol. Like using that /s or using that smiling emoji sign you used. A good joke would land even if some other people miss it because of the text format. "Microsoft would never do this" would have landed for me.

In Soviet Russia, Microsoft is the shit!

As opposed to other places where Microsoft is just shit? :)

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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No we won’t. Details here https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/updates-to-gi... For users of Free, Pro and Pro+ Copilot, if you don’t opt out then we will start collecting usage data of Copilot for use in model training. If you are a subscriber for Business or Pro we do not train on usage. The blog post covers more details but we do not train on private repo data at rest, just interaction data with Copilot.…

I think you're well aware that people aren't upset at the distinction between training on Copilot data versus training on private repo data (at rest). People are upset because GH is using an opt-out model. Your response is disingenuous not to address this, and the "hope this helps" comes across as condescending (not sure if that was your intention.)

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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No we won’t. Details here https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/updates-to-gi... For users of Free, Pro and Pro+ Copilot, if you don’t opt out then we will start collecting usage data of Copilot for use in model training. If you are a subscriber for Business or Pro we do not train on usage. The blog post covers more details but we do not train on private repo data at rest, just interaction data with Copilot.…

Hey Martin, can you please work with Product to significantly clarify what is meant by the following language in the settings? Because right now it's nearly impossible for a layperson (or even an average programmer) to understand what this means:

""" Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training

Allow GitHub to collect and use my Inputs, Outputs, and associated context to train and improve AI models. Read more in the Privacy Statement. """

If the reality is less scary than how it sounds, then the wording needs to be less scary-sounding. It may be that GitHub isn't training models on private repos, but the language certainly suggests that it is. The feedback we're seeing in this post is proof enough of that.

Finally, I read the Privacy Statement, and it's unclear what the applicable language is. "Inputs," "Outputs," and "Associated Context" are terms of art that have no matching definitions in the Statement. (The terms "Outputs" and "Associated Context" don't even appear in the Statement at all. Not even "train.") As an attorney I find this completely baffling.

Re: If you don't opt out by Apr 24 GitHub will train on your private repos

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Microsoft would never do this (-:

I don't like when people make sarcastic remarks and sign off in a way that indicates it was sarcasm. It kills it for me. Lol. Like using that /s or using that smiling emoji sign you used. A good joke would land even if some other people miss it because of the text format. "Microsoft would never do this" would have landed for me.

I think the sarcasm indicator is useful especially for some neurodivergent folks who may not pick up on social cues well. And the sacram indicator does not in any way detract from the joke.
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