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Re: Apple Business

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Post by pseufaux »

czscout wrote: post #231
meego wrote: post #77

I recently tried setting Apple Business Manager for our ≈20 people SME. The first step was "Domain Lock/Capture" which takes over all Apple accounts for a specific domain. I've never had a worse experience from Apple. The process is buggy, filled with foot-guns and dead ends. It expects huge amounts of work from users who have had their account for more than a few weeks and are expected to remove a lot of their perso…

Yes, as an IT professional at a company where a few people have insisted on using Macs, the ABM workflow is by far the most frustrating, half baked product I've had the displeasure of using. People love to complain about Entra/Azure AD, but ABM is another level of obtuse.

What's bad is that it's so much better than it used to be and still this bad.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by pottertheotter »

wil421 wrote: post #266
geoffharcourt wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The domain lock process was an absolute fiasco at our company. I think this could work if you did this at the time your company launched, but the moment you have employees who have Apple IDs tied to their work email that aren't from the Business Essentials system you are stuck in an impossible-to-mange place. There are several cheap MDM solutions for Apple devices that I would rather pay for than be dependent on this…

How does a company allow personal Apple IDs?

I think the idea is that it happens before they lock the domain as a business. Before that, if you have an email address you can create a personal account with it.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by downrightmike »

selectively wrote: post #22
martibravo wrote: post #17

599$ serviceable MacBooks, easy to use MDM, Cloud, Email and Calendar and flat-fee AppleCare all baked in? New businesses under 50 employees are going to eat this up like there's no tomorrow. I'd be scared if I was certain Redmond corporation who makes their money on 365 and Intune.

Microsoft is a giant enterprise software company that also publishes Candy Crush and Call of Duty. Intune and Windows are 'nice to have' but are not the business-business. The business is 365 (which runs on Macs and is worlds better than Apple's office suite + Apple's hosted email is god awful) and Azure.

No, it isn't 365, it is 365 + (forced ai)

Re: Apple Business

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Post by cyberge99 »

crooked-v wrote: post #167
quietsegfault wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t you set up keyboard shortcuts for basically any action in a MacOS app?

As long as it has a menu item (easy) or is exposed to Automator/Shortcuts (more complicated).

There are apps to assign a key combinations to any menubar dropdown menus.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by DrewADesign »

Wow… I might be missing something, but not once did I see AI mentioned! Apple is no slouch in the marketing department— this is surely a deliberate omission. It looks like marketers are finally catching up with public sentiment. I’m sure a lot of people will say it was their abject failure to productize their AI initiatives driving this decision, but I doubt it: the people they’re trying to sell business services to probably don’t know, let alone care about that. I think this term and the industry hype around it is just too radioactive to be beneficial in copy.

I’m happy to be corrected if I missed anything, or entertain alternate conclusions. I’m no expert.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by neeeeeeal »

cheriot wrote: post #286

Jamf shareholders got very lucky. The acquisition closed less than 2 months ago. Tough day for the new PE owners, though. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/francisco-partners-completes-...

Not so sure about this. The level of configurability in AB is significantly less than what is available in established platforms like Jamf, Addigy, etc. The AB offering seems squarely targeted at smaller orgs, and may be a great fit, but is nowhere near as mature as a midsize/enterprise customer would need.

That said, who knows where this will go in the coming years.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by hansonkd »

Apple is terrible for business. Every portal and product require a new apple id. apple store and apple business can't be same apple id. your device id can't be the same as either. Its madness. Last count i have 4 apple ids that I have to shuffle around.

Re: Apple Business

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

I read the first page of text of Apple's announcement, and still have absolutely zero idea what "Apple Business" is, apart from the fact that it will "manage devices" and "configure employee groups".

Since I have no employees and my devices are under control, I guess it's not for me, whatever it is.

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